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<blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 8352782" data-attributes="member: 6779310">I'd not even suggest Idiocy, that it's against the rules notwithstanding.Just a comparison that set off a hotbutton issue for me, because it does rub those sociocultural and historical &quot;raw nerve&quot; areas. But it reminds me...At what level of separation is it OK to define biological lack of abilities? Different species within the same genus? Different genii within the same subfamily? Different subfamilies within the same family? Different families within the same suborder? Different families within the same order? (etc.)We do, at present, know that within the same subfamily (Homininae) are 3 tribes and 4 ot 5 living species... 1 or 2 species of tribe gorillini (Gorilla gorilla and Gorilla beringei), 2 of&nbsp; Paninini (Pan pan, Pan bonobo), 1 of tribe Hominini (Homo Sapiens), 3 known species in the Family Hominidae not within the subfamily Homininae (Tribe Ponginae, Pongo pygmaeus, Pongo abelii , and Pongo tapanuliensis; the old Pongo pongo is deprecated since sequencing the DNA) with a slim chance of one or two more species in the family, possibly a new Pongidae (Yeti as described) or Homo (an insular form diminutive, similar to the Indonesian (Homo floresiensis) and Philippine (Homo luzonensis) hobbitiforms. Both such cryptids have 18th C or later&nbsp; reports. So, at what point do we make the distinction between &quot;acceptable&quot; to&nbsp; have instinctual behaviors H. sapiens would find inherently evil and not?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="aramis erak, post: 8352782, member: 6779310"] I'd not even suggest Idiocy, that it's against the rules notwithstanding. Just a comparison that set off a hotbutton issue for me, because it does rub those sociocultural and historical "raw nerve" areas. But it reminds me... At what level of separation is it OK to define biological lack of abilities? Different species within the same genus? Different genii within the same subfamily? Different subfamilies within the same family? Different families within the same suborder? Different families within the same order? (etc.) We do, at present, know that within the same subfamily (Homininae) are 3 tribes and 4 ot 5 living species... 1 or 2 species of tribe gorillini ([I]Gorilla gorilla and Gorilla beringei)[/I], 2 of Paninini ([I]Pan pan, Pan bonobo[/I]), 1 of tribe Hominini ([I]Homo Sapiens[/I]), 3 known species in the Family Hominidae not within the subfamily Homininae (Tribe Ponginae, [I]Pongo pygmaeus, Pongo abelii , and Pongo tapanuliensis[/I]; the old [I]Pongo pongo[/I] is deprecated since sequencing the DNA) with a slim chance of one or two more species in the family, possibly a new Pongidae (Yeti as described) or Homo (an insular form diminutive, similar to the Indonesian ([I]Homo floresiensis[/I]) and Philippine ([I]Homo luzonensis[/I]) hobbitiforms. Both such cryptids have 18th C or later reports. So, at what point do we make the distinction between "acceptable" to have instinctual behaviors [I]H. sapiens[/I] would find inherently evil and not? [/QUOTE]

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