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<blockquote data-quote="Clint_L" data-source="post: 9448520" data-attributes="member: 7035894">Love the OP. It's thoughtful, detailed, and puts forward a strong case. I don't know that the solution is that much like healing surges in 4e, but the core concept of capping overall healing by tying it to hit dice is very clever.I also agree with the point that healing in 5e is usually a sucker's bet. If you math it out, in most cases the healer could have saved the party more HP by doing something else, such as killing or incapacitating an opponent. In 5e, healing usually only matters if it's a stonking big heal, like mass heal, or a little bonus action when someone is unconscious, like healing word.I'm interested to see how 2024 changes that equation. In general, heals are a bit better and characters are a little tougher. What we found out during play testing is that mobs feel much, much weaker, and that will probably be true for most groups, at least until the new MM comes out.I also think the game is just moving away from attritional play, in general. As the style has shifted to more of a story focus there tends to be an emphasis on having fewer fights with higher stakes rather than a bunch of low stakes encounters leading up to the climax. This is what we see in actual play shows, for example, but it's also how my own games play out. In fact, the first thing I do when adapting an adventure for my table, as I am currently doing with Vecna: Eve of Ruin, is cut a bunch of the minor battles and beef up the big ones. So that has a lot of implications for how healing works over an adventuring day.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Clint_L, post: 9448520, member: 7035894"] Love the OP. It's thoughtful, detailed, and puts forward a strong case. I don't know that the solution is that much like healing surges in 4e, but the core concept of capping overall healing by tying it to hit dice is very clever. I also agree with the point that healing in 5e is usually a sucker's bet. If you math it out, in most cases the healer could have saved the party more HP by doing something else, such as killing or incapacitating an opponent. In 5e, healing usually only matters if it's a stonking big heal, like [I]mass heal[/I], or a little bonus action when someone is unconscious, like [I]healing word[/I]. I'm interested to see how 2024 changes that equation. In general, heals are a bit better and characters are a little tougher. What we found out during play testing is that mobs feel much, much weaker, and that will probably be true for most groups, at least until the new MM comes out. I also think the game is just moving away from attritional play, in general. As the style has shifted to more of a story focus there tends to be an emphasis on having fewer fights with higher stakes rather than a bunch of low stakes encounters leading up to the climax. This is what we see in actual play shows, for example, but it's also how my own games play out. In fact, the first thing I do when adapting an adventure for my table, as I am currently doing with [I]Vecna: Eve of Ruin[/I], is cut a bunch of the minor battles and beef up the big ones. So that has a lot of implications for how healing works over an adventuring day. [/QUOTE]

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