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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 2098867" data-attributes="member: 177">Hm.&nbsp; I think you guys may be the first ones I've ever heard using incompetence to come in &quot;levels&quot;.&nbsp; To most folk, the word implies an absolute, complete lack of ability, not a gradiation.&nbsp; I betcha you'd have bypassed a lot of argument if, rather than claim he's incompetent, you instead said that you felt he was less competent than many other filmmakers.&nbsp; I said &quot;younger audience&quot;, not &quot;children&quot;.&nbsp; I think 13 to 16 year olds are a less sophisticated audience.&nbsp; And, back in the late 70s, they were even less sophisticated than they are now.&nbsp; Whatever he may have said (everyone lies in public statements when marketing is on the line) I expect the teens were the real intended audience for the films.&nbsp; As for them not being for kids - I dunno.&nbsp; I was in single-digit age when the first movie came out, and the violence did not bother me.&nbsp; Nor did it bug my parents, nor the parents of any of my friends at the time.&nbsp; The whole &quot;violence is not for kids&quot; is an invention more recent than Star Wars.Right.&nbsp; It's still two decades ago.&nbsp; You wanna call that &quot;recent&quot;, go right ahead.&nbsp; But don't make it soudn like Lucas made it up after Episode 1 came out.Yes, and back at that time, nobody outside of academic circles knew who Campbell was.&nbsp; If you're making a documentary for mass consumption, you don't start talking about socio-mythological theories from a man knobody's heard of.Lucas held Campbell in such high regard that he opened up his studios for the filming of &quot;The Power of Myth&quot;. Campbell himself stated that the original movies were a nigh-perfect modern execution of his theories.&nbsp; What more do you want?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 2098867, member: 177"] Hm. I think you guys may be the first ones I've ever heard using incompetence to come in "levels". To most folk, the word implies an absolute, complete lack of ability, not a gradiation. I betcha you'd have bypassed a lot of argument if, rather than claim he's incompetent, you instead said that you felt he was less competent than many other filmmakers. I said "younger audience", not "children". I think 13 to 16 year olds are a less sophisticated audience. And, back in the late 70s, they were even less sophisticated than they are now. Whatever he may have said (everyone lies in public statements when marketing is on the line) I expect the teens were the real intended audience for the films. As for them not being for kids - I dunno. I was in single-digit age when the first movie came out, and the violence did not bother me. Nor did it bug my parents, nor the parents of any of my friends at the time. The whole "violence is not for kids" is an invention more recent than Star Wars. Right. It's still [i]two decades ago[/i]. You wanna call that "recent", go right ahead. But don't make it soudn like Lucas made it up after Episode 1 came out. Yes, and back at that time, nobody outside of academic circles knew who Campbell was. If you're making a documentary for mass consumption, you don't start talking about socio-mythological theories from a man knobody's heard of. Lucas held Campbell in such high regard that he opened up his studios for the filming of "The Power of Myth". Campbell himself stated that the original movies were a nigh-perfect modern execution of his theories. What more do you want? [/QUOTE]

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