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<blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 2098894" data-attributes="member: 2205"><p>Whoever said competence was a binary on or off condition? In my daily conversation, "how competent is this person at this job" is a very common phrase. I've never heard competence used as anything other than a spectrum.</p><p></p><p>I wasn't talking about what you said so much as I was talking about what Lucas said. And there were some pretty sophisticated movies being made long before Star Wars; in fact, Star Wars helped paved the way for less sophisticated summer blockbusters. I don't know why audiences were less sophisticated in the 70s if the movies weren't. Unless that's your evidence that the target audience was younger than merely adults.</p><p></p><p>Didn't bother me either. Doesn't mean it was marketed to me. The violence in <em>Captain Blood</em> didn't bother me either, but that doesn't mean it was targetted at children who were 7 or however old I was when I first saw the film. I'd disagree that "violence is not for kids" is a more recent invention than Star Wars. I feeling may have intensified recently, but it's been there pretty much forever. After all, the MPAA was founded in 1922 largely to promote the film industry by maintaining audience controls; i.e., ratings that kept children out of movies that were deemed inappropriate. </p><p></p><p>Which no one ever claimed. However, it's still relatively recent. It was quite a while after the original movies had long been history.</p><p></p><p>You do if he's the leading authority. Haven't you seen a documentary recently? They're always quoting experts no one has heard of.</p><p></p><p>Which is when Lucas started jumping on that himself. I mean, c'mon. It was a win-win for both Campbell and Lucas to be associated together. Campbell got a lot of visibility by associating his theories with the most popular movies ever made (at that point) and Lucas legitimized his movies by associating them with a professor who had a theory that could map relatively well to his creation. I'm not saying that Lucas wasn't already familiar with Campbell, or base his movies on them, but I think it's pretty suspicous that he didn't make any such claims until after the fact. Quite a while after the fact, for that matter, and rather, he is on record as equating his stories with a much more low-brow entertainment in the old Flash Gordon serials.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Desdichado, post: 2098894, member: 2205"] Whoever said competence was a binary on or off condition? In my daily conversation, "how competent is this person at this job" is a very common phrase. I've never heard competence used as anything other than a spectrum. I wasn't talking about what you said so much as I was talking about what Lucas said. And there were some pretty sophisticated movies being made long before Star Wars; in fact, Star Wars helped paved the way for less sophisticated summer blockbusters. I don't know why audiences were less sophisticated in the 70s if the movies weren't. Unless that's your evidence that the target audience was younger than merely adults. Didn't bother me either. Doesn't mean it was marketed to me. The violence in [i]Captain Blood[/i] didn't bother me either, but that doesn't mean it was targetted at children who were 7 or however old I was when I first saw the film. I'd disagree that "violence is not for kids" is a more recent invention than Star Wars. I feeling may have intensified recently, but it's been there pretty much forever. After all, the MPAA was founded in 1922 largely to promote the film industry by maintaining audience controls; i.e., ratings that kept children out of movies that were deemed inappropriate. Which no one ever claimed. However, it's still relatively recent. It was quite a while after the original movies had long been history. You do if he's the leading authority. Haven't you seen a documentary recently? They're always quoting experts no one has heard of. Which is when Lucas started jumping on that himself. I mean, c'mon. It was a win-win for both Campbell and Lucas to be associated together. Campbell got a lot of visibility by associating his theories with the most popular movies ever made (at that point) and Lucas legitimized his movies by associating them with a professor who had a theory that could map relatively well to his creation. I'm not saying that Lucas wasn't already familiar with Campbell, or base his movies on them, but I think it's pretty suspicous that he didn't make any such claims until after the fact. Quite a while after the fact, for that matter, and rather, he is on record as equating his stories with a much more low-brow entertainment in the old Flash Gordon serials. [/QUOTE]
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