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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 2100309" data-attributes="member: 177">Again, the proof is in the pudding.&nbsp; Did you intend to say that he was something other than completely without skill within the stated areas?&nbsp; If you wanted to say he was totally useless on thse counts, then you were clear.&nbsp; If not, then the word choice clouded the issue, at least for me.&nbsp; Mr. Dyal seems to have wanted to say he was at some &quot;level&quot;, implying that he might be someplace other than rock-bottom, and that didn't get across to me on his first statement.Neither here nor there, though.&nbsp; This is digressing into a discussion of word-choice and effective inflection in a text-only medium, which is probably an unwanted hijack.Whether and how following Campbell's outline leads to good things is an entirely separate discussion, I agree.&nbsp; I was still trying to get across the idea that Lucas had not made up the association from whole cloth after the fact.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 2100309, member: 177"] Again, the proof is in the pudding. Did you intend to say that he was something other than completely without skill within the stated areas? If you wanted to say he was totally useless on thse counts, then you were clear. If not, then the word choice clouded the issue, at least for me. Mr. Dyal seems to have wanted to say he was at some "level", implying that he might be someplace other than rock-bottom, and that didn't get across to me on his first statement. Neither here nor there, though. This is digressing into a discussion of word-choice and effective inflection in a text-only medium, which is probably an unwanted hijack. Whether and how following Campbell's outline leads to good things is an entirely separate discussion, I agree. I was still trying to get across the idea that Lucas had not made up the association from whole cloth after the fact. [/QUOTE]

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