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<blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 2103648" data-attributes="member: 812"><p>"The Drunken Master movies" What, exactly are you referring to here? Jackie Chan's films? So there's <em>Drunken Master</em> which he made in 1978 and stands as one of the turning points in action cinema (along with <em>Young Master</em> a year or so later) -- when Jackie Chan figured out that he was actually a comedian rather than a martial artist. Sure, <em>Drunken Master</em> isn't a classic, but it is right in line with literally hundreds of other HK films of that time featuring young talents trying to live up to Bruce Lee's legend.</p><p></p><p>Or perhaps you're referring to <em>Drunken Master II</em>, known in English as <em>The Legend of Drunken Master</em>? The greatest fight film of all time, bar none? The film that captures Jackie (one of the screen's enduring greats) at the peak of his creative and physical powers?</p><p></p><p>I mean, if you don't like <em>Drunken Master II</em>, you just flat-out don't like kung-fu movies. And there's nothing besides Chan's megawatt charisma and physical innovation to make <em>Drunken Master</em> stand out among a hundred other films.</p><p></p><p>But NEITHER of these films can lay much claim to "looking pretty", so they seem awfully out of place in a list of films that made lots of money despite sucking because they looked pretty. They're not films that emphasize style over substance, unless you call Jackie Chan rolling through hot coals as "style over substance".</p><p></p><p>And they're hardly any sort of coherent series, those films. They have nothing in common with each other besides the main character -- who is one of China's most famous figures and appears in probably hundreds of movies.</p><p></p><p>But maybe you're referring to a different set of pictures entirely. I'm curious.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="barsoomcore, post: 2103648, member: 812"] "The Drunken Master movies" What, exactly are you referring to here? Jackie Chan's films? So there's [i]Drunken Master[/i] which he made in 1978 and stands as one of the turning points in action cinema (along with [i]Young Master[/i] a year or so later) -- when Jackie Chan figured out that he was actually a comedian rather than a martial artist. Sure, [i]Drunken Master[/i] isn't a classic, but it is right in line with literally hundreds of other HK films of that time featuring young talents trying to live up to Bruce Lee's legend. Or perhaps you're referring to [i]Drunken Master II[/i], known in English as [i]The Legend of Drunken Master[/i]? The greatest fight film of all time, bar none? The film that captures Jackie (one of the screen's enduring greats) at the peak of his creative and physical powers? I mean, if you don't like [i]Drunken Master II[/i], you just flat-out don't like kung-fu movies. And there's nothing besides Chan's megawatt charisma and physical innovation to make [i]Drunken Master[/i] stand out among a hundred other films. But NEITHER of these films can lay much claim to "looking pretty", so they seem awfully out of place in a list of films that made lots of money despite sucking because they looked pretty. They're not films that emphasize style over substance, unless you call Jackie Chan rolling through hot coals as "style over substance". And they're hardly any sort of coherent series, those films. They have nothing in common with each other besides the main character -- who is one of China's most famous figures and appears in probably hundreds of movies. But maybe you're referring to a different set of pictures entirely. I'm curious. [/QUOTE]
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