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<blockquote data-quote="Ankh-Morpork Guard" data-source="post: 2112531" data-attributes="member: 10079"><p>Funny thing is, I don't really have any arguments as to why he's a good director. I don't have a "He's Great!" to match up with all of your "He Sucks!". Instead, I'm simply not annoyed by the many things you guys have brought up. The dialogue IS stilted at times, but not all the time and it just doesn't bother me. The love story IS slow and done in a way that isn't usual, but it doesn't bother me. These two people are supposed to fall in love. So they do, and we get that over with so we can get back to that action. Whether you believe it should have been handled that way or not is, of course, a whole different matter.</p><p></p><p>Young Anakin? I liked it, and for me it works. For me, really all the things you've complained about aren't problems. Of course, your comments were aimed at Vigilance, really. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe he felt he could do it better than anyone else could? Whether or not this is true, we can't say, though, as no one else did do it. Sure, it worked for Empire, but it didn't really work on Jedi. Its not something that works everytime, so it seems that Lucas just decided he could do it best and went ahead with it. He STILL could have known his own limitations and decided that he could still do it better than anyone else.</p><p></p><p>That doesnt mean he was RIGHT, but it still makes sense as an interpretation. At least, to me it does. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep. But if people THINK they're going to like it and spend money on it they feel the need to complain. That's fine and all, as the internet was made to gripe about movies. But I can't help but wonder why some people KEEP SEEING these movies and are suprised they have the same complaints. Many even say the same things about A New Hope and Jedi, so it really shouldn't come as a surprise when Lucas' way of doing things isn't liked.</p><p></p><p>Of course, that's no different than any other director or writer. Some people simply don't like certain directors/writers/whatever for the way they work. Lucas isn't above that, and if you like Star Wars but don't like how Lucas does things, you're just going to have to live with it because they're stuck together.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>None of you have convinced me or Vigilance that they were BAD films, so do you really expect either of us to convince you they're good? Its not that this is going in circles, its that its not going anywhere. And it won't. We're all stubborn and we know what we like and we've already made up our minds. Its really no different than all the Edition Wars threads that pop up over in General every so often.</p><p></p><p>And if anyone really thinks that they're convincing the other side that they're right, then please take a look at this thread one more time. No one's switched sides yet. Besides, barsoomcore's got a solid argument. How in the hell can anyone debate "It sucks" ?<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ankh-Morpork Guard, post: 2112531, member: 10079"] Funny thing is, I don't really have any arguments as to why he's a good director. I don't have a "He's Great!" to match up with all of your "He Sucks!". Instead, I'm simply not annoyed by the many things you guys have brought up. The dialogue IS stilted at times, but not all the time and it just doesn't bother me. The love story IS slow and done in a way that isn't usual, but it doesn't bother me. These two people are supposed to fall in love. So they do, and we get that over with so we can get back to that action. Whether you believe it should have been handled that way or not is, of course, a whole different matter. Young Anakin? I liked it, and for me it works. For me, really all the things you've complained about aren't problems. Of course, your comments were aimed at Vigilance, really. :) Maybe he felt he could do it better than anyone else could? Whether or not this is true, we can't say, though, as no one else did do it. Sure, it worked for Empire, but it didn't really work on Jedi. Its not something that works everytime, so it seems that Lucas just decided he could do it best and went ahead with it. He STILL could have known his own limitations and decided that he could still do it better than anyone else. That doesnt mean he was RIGHT, but it still makes sense as an interpretation. At least, to me it does. :) Yep. But if people THINK they're going to like it and spend money on it they feel the need to complain. That's fine and all, as the internet was made to gripe about movies. But I can't help but wonder why some people KEEP SEEING these movies and are suprised they have the same complaints. Many even say the same things about A New Hope and Jedi, so it really shouldn't come as a surprise when Lucas' way of doing things isn't liked. Of course, that's no different than any other director or writer. Some people simply don't like certain directors/writers/whatever for the way they work. Lucas isn't above that, and if you like Star Wars but don't like how Lucas does things, you're just going to have to live with it because they're stuck together. None of you have convinced me or Vigilance that they were BAD films, so do you really expect either of us to convince you they're good? Its not that this is going in circles, its that its not going anywhere. And it won't. We're all stubborn and we know what we like and we've already made up our minds. Its really no different than all the Edition Wars threads that pop up over in General every so often. And if anyone really thinks that they're convincing the other side that they're right, then please take a look at this thread one more time. No one's switched sides yet. Besides, barsoomcore's got a solid argument. How in the hell can anyone debate "It sucks" ?:) [/QUOTE]
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