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<blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 2113111" data-attributes="member: 812"><p>See? THAT'S the sort of thing we can talk about. The dialogue in these movies doesn't bug you. Presumably things in these movies delight you. Certain things delight me -- that one army droid that gets its top blown off and is just a pair of legs walking around for a while. Hee. The sword fight at the end is one of the great sword fights in history, no question.</p><p></p><p>Here's one reason, though, why I think TPM is a failure as a cinematic experience: it doesn't work with the sound off. I think truly great films are films that are so well-told visually that you could turn the sound off and still follow and even be thrilled by the story.</p><p></p><p><em>Star Wars</em> does this perfectly. As do most of the movies on my Perfect list. You can turn off the sound and watch and enjoy the story unfolding.</p><p></p><p>Well, okay, maybe not <em>His Girl Friday</em>. Or at least, you'd be missing so much brilliant dialogue, why would you do it?</p><p></p><p>But TPM doesn't work at all. It doesn't make any sense if you can't hear all the exposition that everyone has to deliver. Who are these underwater guys? Who are these funny-looking guys? Why is that kid driving that big machine? What is that spooky-looking guy trying to do?</p><p></p><p>I think that's some of the best evidence that TPM is a cinematic failure. It's not a great film.</p><p></p><p>In fact, to take the risk of repeating myself, it sucks. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>With laser-like targetting.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I think this whole "If I'm right you must be wrong," attitude is at the heart of why so little actual discourse happens in modern society.</p><p></p><p>I don't want you to agree with me. I DON'T CARE if you agree with me. I already know I'm right, I don't need more opinions to reassure me.</p><p></p><p>But I do want to know what you think, and why. Because I'm interested in your opinions. If I think you've overlooked something, or are misinterpreting something, I'll bring it up, but I'm not trying to "win" here. I'm just having fun seeing what people think about stuff.</p><p></p><p>Because that's how I get new ideas. And new ideas are good. I know they're good, because I like them. Remember? That's what "good" means.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ber! Don't give away my secret!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="barsoomcore, post: 2113111, member: 812"] See? THAT'S the sort of thing we can talk about. The dialogue in these movies doesn't bug you. Presumably things in these movies delight you. Certain things delight me -- that one army droid that gets its top blown off and is just a pair of legs walking around for a while. Hee. The sword fight at the end is one of the great sword fights in history, no question. Here's one reason, though, why I think TPM is a failure as a cinematic experience: it doesn't work with the sound off. I think truly great films are films that are so well-told visually that you could turn the sound off and still follow and even be thrilled by the story. [i]Star Wars[/i] does this perfectly. As do most of the movies on my Perfect list. You can turn off the sound and watch and enjoy the story unfolding. Well, okay, maybe not [i]His Girl Friday[/i]. Or at least, you'd be missing so much brilliant dialogue, why would you do it? But TPM doesn't work at all. It doesn't make any sense if you can't hear all the exposition that everyone has to deliver. Who are these underwater guys? Who are these funny-looking guys? Why is that kid driving that big machine? What is that spooky-looking guy trying to do? I think that's some of the best evidence that TPM is a cinematic failure. It's not a great film. In fact, to take the risk of repeating myself, it sucks. :D With laser-like targetting. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I think this whole "If I'm right you must be wrong," attitude is at the heart of why so little actual discourse happens in modern society. I don't want you to agree with me. I DON'T CARE if you agree with me. I already know I'm right, I don't need more opinions to reassure me. But I do want to know what you think, and why. Because I'm interested in your opinions. If I think you've overlooked something, or are misinterpreting something, I'll bring it up, but I'm not trying to "win" here. I'm just having fun seeing what people think about stuff. Because that's how I get new ideas. And new ideas are good. I know they're good, because I like them. Remember? That's what "good" means. Ber! Don't give away my secret! [/QUOTE]
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