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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8593270" data-attributes="member: 6790260">It's the poster child race for "DMs hate it, players love it," and in particular, DMs citing that they won't allow it because it's OP or "ridiculous" but they do allow, y'know, three-foot-tall halfling barbarians with 24 Strength (assuming they reach level 20, that is), or half-elves, which are objectively superior to dragonborn in almost every mechanical way (more stat points that were, pre-Tashas, among the only flexible ones; extra skills, or the option to pick up benefits from any elf subrace; darkvision; and, although it's a minor benefit, an extra language.)If you have an adult conversation with your players about it, you have not been a poor beleaguered DM--you either found a way to resolve the issue, or you found the issue was irresolvable and you went your separate ways. It is ludicrous to claim, and I quote, "houserules are so often maligned that even saying no...generates reactions once reserved for the most oppressive abusive hostile GM styles." No, it does not. That is way beyond the limits of "hyperbole" and into satire, except that I know Tetrasodium is completely serious.Either have the adult conversation--which, y'know, this very thread seems to be all about "talk out what you're going for, don't just assume people are on the same page--or accept that the group you want to play with has a fundamental impasse about how to play.Also, you're the one who injected "scum of the earth" into this. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of claiming all that phenomenal cosmic DM empowerment and then getting upset when players don't instantly kowtow to it. With great power comes great responsibility--or, if you prefer a more storied version of that phrase, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, --That...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government..."If your players challenge you this hard, you don't have their consent anymore. Their actions demonstrate it. Getting petulant and wailing about horrific pushback doesn't solve anything. It just blames the players for a two-way-street problem. The only actual solutions are to abandon the effort as insoluble (which is unfortunate, but it is the eternal fallback), or to talk it out, to earn the players' consent.</blockquote>

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