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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 8599430" data-attributes="member: 6877472">Well Tetrasodium, I don't know what to say. All I have is what I've seen to go on, and that's that running just never seems to work out.&nbsp; Perhaps if I saw an example in action it would be different, but it really seems to be a case of somehow being able to grok the instant the combat starts that it's too much for you, because once you're engaged in combat, if the enemies want to chase you down and kill you, it looks like you're stuck for losing at least one party member unless, again, you have a specific trick prepared to allow for it.You remain in initiative, and the primary factor remains movement speeds.&nbsp; As to why someone would chase you, are you kidding?&nbsp; If they are running, you have the superior force, and these adventurers are busting into your territory.&nbsp; If you let them go, they just come back later.&nbsp; I guess a case could be made for luring enemies into an ambush by having them run after you?&nbsp; I don't know.Oofta, here's the thing.&nbsp; I know I don't try to scout ahead because the game doesn't really support it well.&nbsp; Let me explain- obviously, I can't scout ahead with a light source.&nbsp; So I have to rely on darkvision, if I happen to possess it, which imposes disadvantage on my perception, which isn't ideal in case I bump into something that is also hiding.Now presumably, intelligent humanoids use light because their own darkvision has this nifty penalty attached, but many monsters lack hands.&nbsp; Even if my Stealth skills can easily bypass the passive Perception of most creatures, too many times have I seen the scout, who again, can probably see at best 60 ft. (superior darkvision being fairly rare) ahead, blunders into their own solo encounter.It happened to me one time, and I don't plan on ever repeating the experience.&nbsp; Now a Druid maybe, if available seems like a good choice, as would a familiar if you don't mind having to pay for a new one (on another forum, I saw a very lengthy discussion on what DM's should always target familiars, and it's not an unheard of practice).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 8599430, member: 6877472"] Well Tetrasodium, I don't know what to say. All I have is what I've seen to go on, and that's that running just never seems to work out. Perhaps if I saw an example in action it would be different, but it really seems to be a case of somehow being able to grok the instant the combat starts that it's too much for you, because once you're engaged in combat, if the enemies want to chase you down and kill you, it looks like you're stuck for losing at least one party member unless, again, you have a specific trick prepared to allow for it. You remain in initiative, and the primary factor remains movement speeds. As to why someone would chase you, are you kidding? If they are running, you have the superior force, and these adventurers are busting into your territory. If you let them go, they just come back later. I guess a case could be made for luring enemies into an ambush by having them run after you? I don't know. Oofta, here's the thing. I know I don't try to scout ahead because the game doesn't really support it well. Let me explain- obviously, I can't scout ahead with a light source. So I have to rely on darkvision, if I happen to possess it, which imposes disadvantage on my perception, which isn't ideal in case I bump into something that is also hiding. Now presumably, intelligent humanoids use light because their own darkvision has this nifty penalty attached, but many monsters lack hands. Even if my Stealth skills can easily bypass the passive Perception of most creatures, too many times have I seen the scout, who again, can probably see at best 60 ft. (superior darkvision being fairly rare) ahead, blunders into their own solo encounter. It happened to me one time, and I don't plan on ever repeating the experience. Now a Druid maybe, if available seems like a good choice, as would a familiar if you don't mind having to pay for a new one (on another forum, I saw a very lengthy discussion on what DM's should [B]always[/B] target familiars, and it's not an unheard of practice). [/QUOTE]

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