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<blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 8599556" data-attributes="member: 86653">Your options are:1. Stay and fight and risk everyone dying.2. Run away and risk some dying. Running away, as difficult and dangerous as it is, is still the better option. It comes down to players not wanting to risk their PCs. It like the rich people who go &quot;glamping&quot; instead of actually camping. &quot;Sure, I'll go out into the woods and stay there for a few days...as long as I get to bring every modern amenity I can afford, and perfect access to the internet.&quot; So...you don't want to go camping...you just want to get close to some trees from the comfort of your home. Got it. There's nature documentaries for that. That's the assumption, but when it gets to the point where they refuse to take any risks? I won't scout ahead because I might run into trouble...okay, someone else should be the scout. I don't want to run away because I might get swarmed...okay, so you should be more careful about the fights you get into. They don't actually want to go on an adventure. No risks, no rewards.Finding loot the other PCs don't know about. Finding traps and disarming them. Finding secret doors. Spotting where the enemies are and avoiding them. The person who wants to play the &quot;I scout ahead&quot; fantasy will...because that's the fantasy they want to play. And you run into the trouble of playing to the rules instead of the fantasy. The scout's job is to move silently ahead of the group. If they refuse, find a new scout. Just like you'd find a new cleric if they refuse to heal or find a new sword &amp; board fighter if they refuse to tank.Well, it's dangerous. It's supposed to.That's a common misreading of darkvision. Now those players know better. Lesson learned.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="overgeeked, post: 8599556, member: 86653"] Your options are: 1. Stay and fight and risk [I]everyone[/I] dying. 2. Run away and risk [I]some[/I] dying. Running away, as difficult and dangerous as it is, is still the better option. It comes down to players not wanting to risk their PCs. It like the rich people who go "glamping" instead of actually camping. "Sure, I'll go out into the woods and stay there for a few days...as long as I get to bring every modern amenity I can afford, and perfect access to the internet." So...you don't want to go camping...you just want to get close to some trees from the comfort of your home. Got it. There's nature documentaries for that. That's the assumption, but when it gets to the point where they refuse to take any risks? I won't scout ahead because I might run into trouble...okay, someone else should be the scout. I don't want to run away because I might get swarmed...okay, so you should be more careful about the fights you get into. They don't actually want to go on an adventure. No risks, no rewards. Finding loot the other PCs don't know about. Finding traps and disarming them. Finding secret doors. Spotting where the enemies are and avoiding them. The person who wants to play the "I scout ahead" fantasy will...because that's the fantasy they want to play. And you run into the trouble of playing to the rules instead of the fantasy. The scout's job is to move silently ahead of the group. If they refuse, find a new scout. Just like you'd find a new cleric if they refuse to heal or find a new sword & board fighter if they refuse to tank. Well, it's dangerous. It's supposed to. That's a common misreading of darkvision. Now those players know better. Lesson learned. [/QUOTE]

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