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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 5089775" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>My issue with the Profession skill has always been that it overlaps with other skills. If all it gets you is a +2 synergy bonus, it is awesome for powergamer to squeeze his extra bonus out of it, but actually using the skill itself is difficult.</p><p></p><p>The standard case is "Profession (Sailor)". Shouldn't I know stuff about knots and hence have some benefit with Use Rope?</p><p>On the other hand, if I have Use Rope, Swim, Knowledge (Nature) and Balance, shouldn't I be decent sailor material? </p><p></p><p>I think it would make more sense to create a list of Profession and list skills that might be linked to it. You can then create a feat that gives bonus ranks or skill bonuses to the skills of a Profession. In d20 Modern, you can directly use the rules for occupation. Of course, profession works differently there anyway. </p><p></p><p>A 3.x compatible write-up might be: </p><p><strong>Professions</strong></p><p>A profession consists of a list of linked skills and an ability score representing your general ability in the profession.</p><p>You can use any of the skills listed for the profession or any of the abilities listed for it to earn money. The result equals the number of silver pieces you earn each week. </p><p></p><p><strong>Profession - Sailor</strong>: </p><p>Ability Score: Dexterity</p><p>- Balance</p><p>- Knowledge (Nature)</p><p>- Use Rope</p><p>- Swim</p><p></p><p><strong>Profession (Baker)</strong></p><p>Ability Score: Wisdom</p><p>- Alchemy (if we assume it's not just magical application of chemicals)</p><p>- Diplomacy</p><p>- Knowledge (Nature)</p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Profession (Blacksmith)</strong></p><p>Ability Score: Strength</p><p>- Diplomacy</p><p>- Handle Animal</p><p>- Knowledge (Architecture and Engineering)</p><p></p><p>Feat: </p><p><strong>Professional Training</strong></p><p>Benefit: You gain 6 skill points to distribute among the skills of one of your chosen professions, and a +2 bonus to all checks made to determine how much money you earn when working in that profession.</p><p></p><p></p><p>In 4E (which lacks Craft and Profession skills), I tend to approach it using existing skills and explain how they apply to it. Blacksmithing for example could involve: </p><p>- Athletics (or generally strength, having the strength and controlling it well enough)</p><p>- Endurance (for doing it all day)</p><p>- History (the techniques you use have been developed in the past. Crafting an axe according to the ancient traditions taught to the first Dwarves by Moradin himself.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 5089775, member: 710"] My issue with the Profession skill has always been that it overlaps with other skills. If all it gets you is a +2 synergy bonus, it is awesome for powergamer to squeeze his extra bonus out of it, but actually using the skill itself is difficult. The standard case is "Profession (Sailor)". Shouldn't I know stuff about knots and hence have some benefit with Use Rope? On the other hand, if I have Use Rope, Swim, Knowledge (Nature) and Balance, shouldn't I be decent sailor material? I think it would make more sense to create a list of Profession and list skills that might be linked to it. You can then create a feat that gives bonus ranks or skill bonuses to the skills of a Profession. In d20 Modern, you can directly use the rules for occupation. Of course, profession works differently there anyway. A 3.x compatible write-up might be: [B]Professions[/B] A profession consists of a list of linked skills and an ability score representing your general ability in the profession. You can use any of the skills listed for the profession or any of the abilities listed for it to earn money. The result equals the number of silver pieces you earn each week. [B]Profession - Sailor[/B]: Ability Score: Dexterity - Balance - Knowledge (Nature) - Use Rope - Swim [B]Profession (Baker)[/B] Ability Score: Wisdom - Alchemy (if we assume it's not just magical application of chemicals) - Diplomacy - Knowledge (Nature) [B] Profession (Blacksmith)[/B] Ability Score: Strength - Diplomacy - Handle Animal - Knowledge (Architecture and Engineering) Feat: [B]Professional Training[/B] Benefit: You gain 6 skill points to distribute among the skills of one of your chosen professions, and a +2 bonus to all checks made to determine how much money you earn when working in that profession. In 4E (which lacks Craft and Profession skills), I tend to approach it using existing skills and explain how they apply to it. Blacksmithing for example could involve: - Athletics (or generally strength, having the strength and controlling it well enough) - Endurance (for doing it all day) - History (the techniques you use have been developed in the past. Crafting an axe according to the ancient traditions taught to the first Dwarves by Moradin himself.) [/QUOTE]
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