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<blockquote data-quote="Wyrmshadows" data-source="post: 4449787" data-attributes="member: 56166"><p>Of course bards exaggerate, it makes for a better story. This doesn't mean that they have to exaggerate for the sake of the PCs. Never as a DM have I encountered, <em>"Oh no, we just entered Cormyr and suddenly I feel my heroism drained away for the good King Azoun is greater than us. For shame cruel DM for it is we who are the greatest of Cormyr's living heroes at 8th level."</em> <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/cry.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":.-(" title="Cry :.-(" data-shortname=":.-(" /></p><p> </p><p>Nope, never happened.</p><p> </p><p>Sometimes a DM can have the tales be exaggerations, other times the tales are more true than false and the needs of the story and the setting should decide it.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Again, context, context, context.</p><p> </p><p>Claiming this as a universal truth is nonsense. There are times when a mighty wizard has to open up a gate to wherever in front of the PCs so they can enter the outer planes. Maybe the PCs witness the summoning of a Balor demon by an aligned NPC because it serves the plot. So are you actually saying that using a high level spell in front of the players is 'rubbing their nose in it'? As DM I have to do this off camera?</p><p> </p><p>What if the PCs are in an army, their leader is King Arthur and its the Battle of Mount Badon where the Britons battled the Saxons and the PCs see Arthur scything through saxons as an initial cutscene before they engage their own enemies? I suppose the PCs are going to feel bad because they aren't peers to King Arthur?</p><p> </p><p>Here's how I see it. If a player has a problem with either above example they can freely leave my game table. I make sure my players have fun, but my job as DM is not to massage their fragile egos nerfing the entire setting in the process. Anyonre who can't handle the fact that their low to middling level heroes aren't the baddest of the bad and that very likely they are unlikely ever to literally be the [booming voice] <em>MOST POWERFUL CHARACTERS IN THE WORLD </em>[/booming voice] can walk or attempt to run theor own game. </p><p> </p><p>As long as you exist there will be those who are your lessers, your peers and your betters. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Wyrmshadows</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wyrmshadows, post: 4449787, member: 56166"] Of course bards exaggerate, it makes for a better story. This doesn't mean that they have to exaggerate for the sake of the PCs. Never as a DM have I encountered, [I]"Oh no, we just entered Cormyr and suddenly I feel my heroism drained away for the good King Azoun is greater than us. For shame cruel DM for it is we who are the greatest of Cormyr's living heroes at 8th level."[/I] :.-( Nope, never happened. Sometimes a DM can have the tales be exaggerations, other times the tales are more true than false and the needs of the story and the setting should decide it. Again, context, context, context. Claiming this as a universal truth is nonsense. There are times when a mighty wizard has to open up a gate to wherever in front of the PCs so they can enter the outer planes. Maybe the PCs witness the summoning of a Balor demon by an aligned NPC because it serves the plot. So are you actually saying that using a high level spell in front of the players is 'rubbing their nose in it'? As DM I have to do this off camera? What if the PCs are in an army, their leader is King Arthur and its the Battle of Mount Badon where the Britons battled the Saxons and the PCs see Arthur scything through saxons as an initial cutscene before they engage their own enemies? I suppose the PCs are going to feel bad because they aren't peers to King Arthur? Here's how I see it. If a player has a problem with either above example they can freely leave my game table. I make sure my players have fun, but my job as DM is not to massage their fragile egos nerfing the entire setting in the process. Anyonre who can't handle the fact that their low to middling level heroes aren't the baddest of the bad and that very likely they are unlikely ever to literally be the [booming voice] [I]MOST POWERFUL CHARACTERS IN THE WORLD [/I][/booming voice] can walk or attempt to run theor own game. As long as you exist there will be those who are your lessers, your peers and your betters. Wyrmshadows [/QUOTE]
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