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<blockquote data-quote="Barastrondo" data-source="post: 4797490" data-attributes="member: 3820"><p>Yes, but in that same piece you have two men dressed head-to-toe, one in heavy cloth, one in metal armor. It's a bit of a double-standard. The artist may have been trying to depict "look, women are smarter than men because they wear bikinis to fight efreet when it's hot" — but if that's the case, he didn't do a really good job of showing her as more effective than her two (non-grabbed) friends. And I honestly doubt that was the intent.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>I wouldn't say I'm deeply bothered by it, but I'm lightly bothered by the double standard. If the two guys on the cover of the DMG were also in thongs, baring their muscular buttocks for the viewer's pleasure, there are fewer people who would leap to the artist's defense out of principle. Still plenty, thankfully, but still fewer.</p><p></p><p>It's worth bearing in mind, though, that overall pop culture is just not where it was in the seventies. The local rack of fantasy novels isn't teeming with covers depicting scantily-clad barbarians and their equally scantily-clad conquests as much as it was. Things like Wheel of Time and Song of Ice and Fire and Harry Potter and Golden Compass have all done their part of changing the general fantasy zeitgeist. The LotR movies made Eowyn a more widely visible swordswoman than Red Sonja.</p><p></p><p>The original AD&D art is, in part, a product of its time. It hails back to wizards and barbarians being airbrushed on the sides of vans, and to drive-in movies that Joe Bob Briggs would rate on the number of exposed breasts. Unless the zeitgeist returns, that particular brand of nudity in game art is probably unlikely to become the norm.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Barastrondo, post: 4797490, member: 3820"] Yes, but in that same piece you have two men dressed head-to-toe, one in heavy cloth, one in metal armor. It's a bit of a double-standard. The artist may have been trying to depict "look, women are smarter than men because they wear bikinis to fight efreet when it's hot" — but if that's the case, he didn't do a really good job of showing her as more effective than her two (non-grabbed) friends. And I honestly doubt that was the intent. I wouldn't say I'm deeply bothered by it, but I'm lightly bothered by the double standard. If the two guys on the cover of the DMG were also in thongs, baring their muscular buttocks for the viewer's pleasure, there are fewer people who would leap to the artist's defense out of principle. Still plenty, thankfully, but still fewer. It's worth bearing in mind, though, that overall pop culture is just not where it was in the seventies. The local rack of fantasy novels isn't teeming with covers depicting scantily-clad barbarians and their equally scantily-clad conquests as much as it was. Things like Wheel of Time and Song of Ice and Fire and Harry Potter and Golden Compass have all done their part of changing the general fantasy zeitgeist. The LotR movies made Eowyn a more widely visible swordswoman than Red Sonja. The original AD&D art is, in part, a product of its time. It hails back to wizards and barbarians being airbrushed on the sides of vans, and to drive-in movies that Joe Bob Briggs would rate on the number of exposed breasts. Unless the zeitgeist returns, that particular brand of nudity in game art is probably unlikely to become the norm. [/QUOTE]
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