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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 8494529" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>In every other avenue of art and culture, there is space for BOTH the inclusive and friendly, AND the risque, daring, and, yes, offensive or incorrect. The instinct to get personally insulted, and accuse others of not being inclusive, is what I hope we can get past. Just like art, literature and moving pictures, I want our role-playing game hobby to tolerate what we find obnoxious or risque, simply by ignoring it and focusing on what we do like.</p><p></p><p>That does not mean I secretly want hate crimes or right-wing propaganda.</p><p></p><p>Other cultured folks are able to separate the hateful from the merely provocative, and so should we.</p><p></p><p>But getting all riled up because fantasy races that get bonuses to Strength but not to Intelligence exists, or to return to the subject of this thread, that warrior princesses are depicted nearly nude, just isn't good for the hobby. No, these creators did not in fact publish those modules to insult or exclude you. No, really. That just weren't their motivations. The proper way of handling something you don't want to look at is to look away, not start a witch hunt. Wanting inclusive nonracist content with modern sensibilities is perfectly fine. Wanting others to stop consuming content that doesn't cater to those sensibilities of yours is not.</p><p></p><p>Jumping to the conclusion I must be a hateful racist just because I might enjoy a game full of inequality or misery is, on the other hand, utterly unacceptable. Concluding these other people must be misogynistic or hateful because they want something else than you is a serious error that threatens our entire industry. If you watch horror movies or read 50 shades of gray I would never in my life accuse you of being a murderous sadist or a masochistic slut. But for some reason it has become commonplace to assume you must be what you play in ttrpgs.</p><p></p><p>This despite how we should be the most experienced and trained people in being able to separate reality from fantasy. There are even big popular RPG forums that bunch you together with extremists and trolls and simply ban you if you voice concern over this semi-recent narrow-mindedness. So in short, if I should enjoy nekkid warrior princesses in my gaming supplements, I really need you to not take that as a personal insult, or conclude I must hate all women, or the like.</p><p></p><p>That is the point. So far this discussion is faintly hopeful, since for every "call to arms" post there's at least one voice of calm and reason.</p><p></p><p>Zapp</p><p></p><p>PS. If anything of the above makes you go "Zapp the fracker makes my blood boil" I assure you, it's YOU and not me. No, nope and njet. I simply don't harbor any of the malicious motivations you think I do - it's you projecting that naughty word on me, and this entire post is me suggesting you maybe stop doing that. For your own sake, for the entire hobby's sake. Thanks. DS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 8494529, member: 12731"] In every other avenue of art and culture, there is space for BOTH the inclusive and friendly, AND the risque, daring, and, yes, offensive or incorrect. The instinct to get personally insulted, and accuse others of not being inclusive, is what I hope we can get past. Just like art, literature and moving pictures, I want our role-playing game hobby to tolerate what we find obnoxious or risque, simply by ignoring it and focusing on what we do like. That does not mean I secretly want hate crimes or right-wing propaganda. Other cultured folks are able to separate the hateful from the merely provocative, and so should we. But getting all riled up because fantasy races that get bonuses to Strength but not to Intelligence exists, or to return to the subject of this thread, that warrior princesses are depicted nearly nude, just isn't good for the hobby. No, these creators did not in fact publish those modules to insult or exclude you. No, really. That just weren't their motivations. The proper way of handling something you don't want to look at is to look away, not start a witch hunt. Wanting inclusive nonracist content with modern sensibilities is perfectly fine. Wanting others to stop consuming content that doesn't cater to those sensibilities of yours is not. Jumping to the conclusion I must be a hateful racist just because I might enjoy a game full of inequality or misery is, on the other hand, utterly unacceptable. Concluding these other people must be misogynistic or hateful because they want something else than you is a serious error that threatens our entire industry. If you watch horror movies or read 50 shades of gray I would never in my life accuse you of being a murderous sadist or a masochistic slut. But for some reason it has become commonplace to assume you must be what you play in ttrpgs. This despite how we should be the most experienced and trained people in being able to separate reality from fantasy. There are even big popular RPG forums that bunch you together with extremists and trolls and simply ban you if you voice concern over this semi-recent narrow-mindedness. So in short, if I should enjoy nekkid warrior princesses in my gaming supplements, I really need you to not take that as a personal insult, or conclude I must hate all women, or the like. That is the point. So far this discussion is faintly hopeful, since for every "call to arms" post there's at least one voice of calm and reason. Zapp PS. If anything of the above makes you go "Zapp the fracker makes my blood boil" I assure you, it's YOU and not me. No, nope and njet. I simply don't harbor any of the malicious motivations you think I do - it's you projecting that naughty word on me, and this entire post is me suggesting you maybe stop doing that. For your own sake, for the entire hobby's sake. Thanks. DS [/QUOTE]
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