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<blockquote data-quote="MGibster" data-source="post: 8494623" data-attributes="member: 4534"><p>Okay. Mainly I'm pushing back against the idea that just because an image makes someone uncomfortable that it's wrong for the publisher or anyone else to want to keep it in. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I do agree that comparing the moral panic of the 1980s to reactions we're seeing from people regarding cheesecake is silly. And it's not just women, Avalanche Press lost <em>my</em> business primarily because their cover art alienated me. You're right, on one hand we had people who wanted to end the hobby and on the other hand you have people who just want to participate and feel as though they're welcome. Big difference. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Well it would be tough to have a lot of chainmail bikinis in a property that has very few women to begin with or one where they all start out as children. Of course both Harry Potter and LotR are also head and shoulders above a lot of fantasy offerings in terms of their literary quality which likely has a lot to do with their success. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Going? They went that route a long time ago. At least since 3rd edition in 2000, it seems to me that the majority of women have been depicted as being appropriately attired. And, like I said earlier, I'm not exactly chomping at the bit to see them add nudity to anything in D&D. I don't need illustrations of topless succubi, lamias, or nymphs in the Monster Manual. I'll save the Frazetta illustrations of women with glorious asses and buff dudes with axes for the appropriate venue; Airbrushed onto the side of my '77 Chevy Van.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MGibster, post: 8494623, member: 4534"] Okay. Mainly I'm pushing back against the idea that just because an image makes someone uncomfortable that it's wrong for the publisher or anyone else to want to keep it in. I do agree that comparing the moral panic of the 1980s to reactions we're seeing from people regarding cheesecake is silly. And it's not just women, Avalanche Press lost [I]my[/I] business primarily because their cover art alienated me. You're right, on one hand we had people who wanted to end the hobby and on the other hand you have people who just want to participate and feel as though they're welcome. Big difference. Well it would be tough to have a lot of chainmail bikinis in a property that has very few women to begin with or one where they all start out as children. Of course both Harry Potter and LotR are also head and shoulders above a lot of fantasy offerings in terms of their literary quality which likely has a lot to do with their success. Going? They went that route a long time ago. At least since 3rd edition in 2000, it seems to me that the majority of women have been depicted as being appropriately attired. And, like I said earlier, I'm not exactly chomping at the bit to see them add nudity to anything in D&D. I don't need illustrations of topless succubi, lamias, or nymphs in the Monster Manual. I'll save the Frazetta illustrations of women with glorious asses and buff dudes with axes for the appropriate venue; Airbrushed onto the side of my '77 Chevy Van. [/QUOTE]
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