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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JiffyPopTart" data-source="post: 8496327" data-attributes="member: 4881">I'm going to try to lay out a different view on the matter...but it's easier to do so via subject matter rather than visuals because I can articulate so mething that is personal to me.I do not like roleplaying romance in my games.  It makes me uncomfortable.  I really only have romantic relationships stated matter of factly, never do I indulge in playing out a scene between individuals (PCs or NPCs alike).  Same goes for sexy time encounters.  It's just a topic that I don't enjoy roleplaying, have no interest in exploring in an RPG, and quite frankly would be happy never existed.I don't begrudge others from including romance/sex in their games.  I'm sure there are many many people who find that the spice that makes the game worth playing.This in mind, I don't think it is fair for me to advocate removal of something from the game that I dislike just because it's a sore spot for me.Now, to transition this to pinup artwork in the game, my personal view is that I can take it or leave it.  I don't actually pay that much attention to art in general (other than monster art I show to players) and I have yet to run into anything in RPG art more aggregious than what you can see on Witcher or GoT or at the beach.Where I take issue with your blanket statements is that you are stipulating that some things are factually true ...1. A majority of female players did not engage with DnD because of artwork contained in it's books.2. The rise of female players is caused by (at least in part) better depictions of female characters in the artwork.While both of those statements MAY be true, I don't think we have enough data to actually answer those questions factually.  You may see the trends and assign art as a factor, but there very well may be many more female gamers who push past the content they don't enjoy (like I do with romance/sex) rather than treat it as a hard stop to using that material.</blockquote>

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