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<blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 5858144"><p>I think you're reading my point backwards. What I mean is that if I'm essentially playing LOTR(an idea I find dreadfully boring), why don't I just save myself the boredom and go watch it? I like games that present some diversity. I can understand fighting lots of orcs because the setting demands it, but even so, there's got to be <em>something</em> to keep me engaged. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, but if your adventure remains in a small location, then you don't need level progression anyway. You can start the game @ lvl 2 and end the game at lvl 3. Needing to go 1-20 for an adventure that never leaves the local forest is unnecessary. I don't think we need to throw a hundred onions at the player just to make the one grapefruit stand out. The issue of a dragon is in the presentation, even orcs can be interesting if the presentation is good. The problem is: they're usually not. Orcs, goblins, bandits, wolves, ect... they're generally used as cannon fodder. The DM, much like Sauron, throws as many of them at your party as they can without even so much as a "hello" first.</p><p></p><p>Dragons are interesting because DMs take the time to <em>make</em> them interesting. Goblins and orcs are boring because they're thrown at you en-masse with no ceremony at all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sunseeker, post: 5858144"] I think you're reading my point backwards. What I mean is that if I'm essentially playing LOTR(an idea I find dreadfully boring), why don't I just save myself the boredom and go watch it? I like games that present some diversity. I can understand fighting lots of orcs because the setting demands it, but even so, there's got to be [I]something[/I] to keep me engaged. Sure, but if your adventure remains in a small location, then you don't need level progression anyway. You can start the game @ lvl 2 and end the game at lvl 3. Needing to go 1-20 for an adventure that never leaves the local forest is unnecessary. I don't think we need to throw a hundred onions at the player just to make the one grapefruit stand out. The issue of a dragon is in the presentation, even orcs can be interesting if the presentation is good. The problem is: they're usually not. Orcs, goblins, bandits, wolves, ect... they're generally used as cannon fodder. The DM, much like Sauron, throws as many of them at your party as they can without even so much as a "hello" first. Dragons are interesting because DMs take the time to [I]make[/I] them interesting. Goblins and orcs are boring because they're thrown at you en-masse with no ceremony at all. [/QUOTE]
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