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<blockquote data-quote="Enforcer" data-source="post: 1489469" data-attributes="member: 396"><p>I saw it last night, but because moviefone.com lied to me about Hellboy playing at this one theater...</p><p></p><p>Anyways, I'm not a big comic book reader and I've never read the Punisher comics. I've also never seen the first movie. That said, I liked the movie. Not the best comic book hero movie ever (X-Men 2, in my opinion), but certainly better than Batman and Robin. I liked it better than Daredevil too.</p><p></p><p>No, Frank doesn't go John Woo style as his family's being killed. This, and other scenes in the movie really emphasize the whole "I'm not a Superhero" thing. The guy is human. He gets hurt. And, he understands that he gets hurt and acts accordingly. And yes, I though most of the gunplay was pretty darn realistic (as far as a non-military, non-police person knows these things).</p><p></p><p>Personally, I thought the whole "making John Travolta mad at his wife" thing was excellent. Especially since Travolta does a good job playing his character as loving his wife. To me he seems to kick up the revenge movie a notch by <em>really</em> putting the hurt on Travolta's Saint character. His last lines to Saint is great in a "Haha, I've totally owned you" kind of way. Yeah, the fire skull symbol is cheezy, but I liked it anyways.</p><p></p><p>As for the Jane/Lambert comparison...you get to see Jane without a shirt on early into the movie, and it's quite clear that Jane could break Lambert in half. He just has much more of a physical presence than Lambert ever could. The guy is <em>built.</em> And he doesn't have an annoying accent, so Jane gets bonus points there. Honestly, the Lambert thing never crossed my mind until I read that post in this thread--after seeing the movie.</p><p></p><p>I also think Jane did a hell of a job with the whole emotional self-destruction thing too. Not as good as Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon I, but still above average.</p><p></p><p>My recommendation is that it's worth seeing, at least if you don't have any comic-book fan baggage to bring along. Buy the DVD when it comes out? I might, depending on what deleted scenes they include--they probably deleted some that detailed Saint's interaction with the Toro brothers, for example.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Enforcer, post: 1489469, member: 396"] I saw it last night, but because moviefone.com lied to me about Hellboy playing at this one theater... Anyways, I'm not a big comic book reader and I've never read the Punisher comics. I've also never seen the first movie. That said, I liked the movie. Not the best comic book hero movie ever (X-Men 2, in my opinion), but certainly better than Batman and Robin. I liked it better than Daredevil too. No, Frank doesn't go John Woo style as his family's being killed. This, and other scenes in the movie really emphasize the whole "I'm not a Superhero" thing. The guy is human. He gets hurt. And, he understands that he gets hurt and acts accordingly. And yes, I though most of the gunplay was pretty darn realistic (as far as a non-military, non-police person knows these things). Personally, I thought the whole "making John Travolta mad at his wife" thing was excellent. Especially since Travolta does a good job playing his character as loving his wife. To me he seems to kick up the revenge movie a notch by [I]really[/I] putting the hurt on Travolta's Saint character. His last lines to Saint is great in a "Haha, I've totally owned you" kind of way. Yeah, the fire skull symbol is cheezy, but I liked it anyways. As for the Jane/Lambert comparison...you get to see Jane without a shirt on early into the movie, and it's quite clear that Jane could break Lambert in half. He just has much more of a physical presence than Lambert ever could. The guy is [I]built.[/I] And he doesn't have an annoying accent, so Jane gets bonus points there. Honestly, the Lambert thing never crossed my mind until I read that post in this thread--after seeing the movie. I also think Jane did a hell of a job with the whole emotional self-destruction thing too. Not as good as Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon I, but still above average. My recommendation is that it's worth seeing, at least if you don't have any comic-book fan baggage to bring along. Buy the DVD when it comes out? I might, depending on what deleted scenes they include--they probably deleted some that detailed Saint's interaction with the Toro brothers, for example. [/QUOTE]
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