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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 9527473" data-attributes="member: 7023840"><p>Wait, the rules don't all agree with each other in 1e? GYGAX!!!!!!!! (Great topic, btw).</p><p></p><p>I don't want to go back through the thread to see if it has already been brought up, and if it has, I apologize. But Deities & Demigods has a definitive stance which somehow is tucked away.</p><p></p><p>If you are a normal person, and for to the section about Clerics and Deities (pp. 9-10) and read it, you will notice that it doesn't say <em>anything about alignment</em>, just transgressions, the need to advance the deity's interests, etc. So, should be good to go, right?</p><p></p><p>NOT SO FAST!</p><p></p><p>On page 6, in the explanatory notes for the Deity's stat blocks, it explains alignment (although deities are not constrained to follow their alignment) and then the Worshipper's Align. It says that this is the general alignment for those who follow the deity (but not all). BUT IT DOESN'T APPLY TO CLERICS, because they have to match the deity's alignment. But it's phrased really badly. Here-</p><p></p><p><em>WORSHIPER'S ALIGN: This refers to the general alignment of those who worship, adore or propitiate the deity. This does not <u>necessarily </u>apply to the alignment of the deity’s clerics, which must be identical with their patron’s.</em></p><p></p><p>(Underline is mine)</p><p></p><p>First, propitiate? Hell to the yeah! But second .... necessarily? Why not just say "does not apply" without any possible caveat? Ugh.</p><p></p><p>To recap- according to this book-</p><p>1. Worshippers of a deity should look to the "WORSHIPPER'S ALIGN" section. Which has the alignment of the worshippers. Except when it doesn't (sometimes it uses classes or other things instead of alignment, like "chaotic neutral and thieves") Heck, Hera doesn't have alignment for worshippers - she is worshipped by wives and intriguers. Oh. Ignore that. Anyway, it doesn't apply to all worshippers.</p><p></p><p>2. Clerics, however, must match the deity's alignment! </p><p></p><p>3. However however, the deity does not have to match the deity's alignment. Suck it, Cleric.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 9527473, member: 7023840"] Wait, the rules don't all agree with each other in 1e? GYGAX!!!!!!!! (Great topic, btw). I don't want to go back through the thread to see if it has already been brought up, and if it has, I apologize. But Deities & Demigods has a definitive stance which somehow is tucked away. If you are a normal person, and for to the section about Clerics and Deities (pp. 9-10) and read it, you will notice that it doesn't say [I]anything about alignment[/I], just transgressions, the need to advance the deity's interests, etc. So, should be good to go, right? NOT SO FAST! On page 6, in the explanatory notes for the Deity's stat blocks, it explains alignment (although deities are not constrained to follow their alignment) and then the Worshipper's Align. It says that this is the general alignment for those who follow the deity (but not all). BUT IT DOESN'T APPLY TO CLERICS, because they have to match the deity's alignment. But it's phrased really badly. Here- [I]WORSHIPER'S ALIGN: This refers to the general alignment of those who worship, adore or propitiate the deity. This does not [U]necessarily [/U]apply to the alignment of the deity’s clerics, which must be identical with their patron’s.[/I] (Underline is mine) First, propitiate? Hell to the yeah! But second .... necessarily? Why not just say "does not apply" without any possible caveat? Ugh. To recap- according to this book- 1. Worshippers of a deity should look to the "WORSHIPPER'S ALIGN" section. Which has the alignment of the worshippers. Except when it doesn't (sometimes it uses classes or other things instead of alignment, like "chaotic neutral and thieves") Heck, Hera doesn't have alignment for worshippers - she is worshipped by wives and intriguers. Oh. Ignore that. Anyway, it doesn't apply to all worshippers. 2. Clerics, however, must match the deity's alignment! 3. However however, the deity does not have to match the deity's alignment. Suck it, Cleric. [/QUOTE]
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