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<blockquote data-quote="Water Bob" data-source="post: 5891939" data-attributes="member: 92305"><p>Granted, it's a lot of material. But, $120 bucks, new retail, for the original set? That's too high.</p><p> </p><p>And, I think some of those 128 pages are wasted with non-adventuring material. For example, in the first Kingmaker book, I think two pages are wasted on the Forword. You don't need that--not at all. It's a waste. Same goes with the 6 page story (that continues in each book of the path). To me, that's wasted space.</p><p> </p><p>That's a lot of pages (around 48 pages for the entire adventure path) that should have been put to better use.</p><p> </p><p>That's about a buck a book the set could be reduced right there (either by replacing that material with using gaming stuff, or making the books 120 pages).</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>On top of this is simple presentation. Remember those old adventures like L1 - The Secret of Bone Hill? That is a sandbox, just like the Kingmaker path, but man, did they used to pack a lot into a small number of pages. Look through Bone Hill, if you get the chance. These pages includes two fully mapped and keyed keeps (the main adventure location of Bone Hill and the Baron's castle), plus an entire town of 300+ NPCs, with every NPC detailed and located in a specific house. Plus the "sandbox" area around the town and keeps, complete with description, various random encounter charts, all of it fully mapped.</p><p> </p><p>That's a ton stuff packed into 32 pages and a cover.</p><p> </p><p>I think it's a better value than what I'm seeing with my first Adventure Path (Kingmaker).</p><p> </p><p>I am happy with Kingmaker, so far. I just think it's over priced (and I got it for half original price).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Water Bob, post: 5891939, member: 92305"] Granted, it's a lot of material. But, $120 bucks, new retail, for the original set? That's too high. And, I think some of those 128 pages are wasted with non-adventuring material. For example, in the first Kingmaker book, I think two pages are wasted on the Forword. You don't need that--not at all. It's a waste. Same goes with the 6 page story (that continues in each book of the path). To me, that's wasted space. That's a lot of pages (around 48 pages for the entire adventure path) that should have been put to better use. That's about a buck a book the set could be reduced right there (either by replacing that material with using gaming stuff, or making the books 120 pages). On top of this is simple presentation. Remember those old adventures like L1 - The Secret of Bone Hill? That is a sandbox, just like the Kingmaker path, but man, did they used to pack a lot into a small number of pages. Look through Bone Hill, if you get the chance. These pages includes two fully mapped and keyed keeps (the main adventure location of Bone Hill and the Baron's castle), plus an entire town of 300+ NPCs, with every NPC detailed and located in a specific house. Plus the "sandbox" area around the town and keeps, complete with description, various random encounter charts, all of it fully mapped. That's a ton stuff packed into 32 pages and a cover. I think it's a better value than what I'm seeing with my first Adventure Path (Kingmaker). I am happy with Kingmaker, so far. I just think it's over priced (and I got it for half original price). [/QUOTE]
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