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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 5282199">So I've been playing with a way to make the half-dragon template more useful to a PC, because lets face it, most of it doesn't even have an effect on your character.  Which basically leaves you with a lot fewer HD and not much to gain for it.  IMO, annoying.  I'm basically working off the template sheet from Crystal Keep, as I absolutely love how it's complied said templates.Basically the two changes here are going to be the alteration of HD to affect class HD as well as racial HD.  The effect remains the same, but it allows for most classes to gain nearly one HD(fighters for example, would gain 2 extra per level, which would take 10 levels to make up the missing 2 HD, and at that point prestige classes start to kick in and things start to get really out of hand.  While beyond that they would be gaining points higher than their normal HD, by the time it became significant(2 extra HD worth @lvl 20), it's pretty negligible anyway.Second, we're dumping the idea that lager creatures get wings.  Lets face it, most players are going to be medium, and they can take a feat to give them wings(and upgrade them) if they want to.  Third, natural armor is getting halved(since you're half-less a dragon than half) and strength is getting cut by 2.  You're still armored and you're still a powerhouse, but you're more diluted.Here, we're dropping low-light vision.  Why?  Because you're really only going to be using regular vision or darkvision.  Yes, in theory if you can use one, you can use both, for my reasoning, like the human that has diluted your bloodline, twilight and dawn are difficult lighting times for you as well.  The Sleep and paralysis becomes sleep OR paralysis, players choice.  Reasoning: sleep is usually a mental affect, paralysis is usually physical.  The choice is merely thematic IMO, as for all I care you could dump both and by the time it mattered you'd have some special ring or something that would do it anyway.Skill points will no longer be multiplied by HD, racial or otherwise.  Since this point of this is to keep the ECL low in order to allow playing at lower levels, and +6 is already pretty sweet, there's really no need for this.Breath weapon is now 3d8+choice of stat bonus(similar to 4ed Dragonborn), remember you're half a half dragon, so you get half it's breath power.  You can always take the talents to make it better.Leaving us with:I figure the stats are pretty fair for a LA+2 instead of +3.  I would be accepting of a +1 if the player would be willing to drop +2 from 3 stats(leaving either a mighty +6 to strength, or +4 strength and +2 other), any immunity, HD increases, and the bite and claw attacks(since they probably won't get used anyway).  Assuming they don't juse use the "Draconic" template.Leaving us with:Which, as opposed to the "Draconic" template, they basically trade the claw attacks, low-light vision and the racial ability bonuses for a few more skill points, the breath weapon, and an additional +1 nat arm bonus.  Because honestly, the "draconic" template was kinda lame, and there's really nothing that says dragon more than a breath weapon(IMO).---So whadda ya'll think?  I realize that a choice of damage modifier can get kinda sick there if you build it right, but at the same time, if you build it that way(such as all strength or all con) you're going to force yourself into only a few roles which IMO is a fair tradeoff for having such high numbers in those stats.  But then likewise, it is only once a day unless you're taking dragon racial stats which is your choice to favor race over class.</blockquote>

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