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<blockquote data-quote="scourger" data-source="post: 6241167" data-attributes="member: 12328">For me, it comes down to genre portability.&nbsp; Savage Worlds (predictably) and d20 (ironically) have been the best systems for me in those respects.&nbsp; The best generic system I've found is Savage Worlds.&nbsp; I love it.&nbsp; But, we mainly play it without magic so the experience is skewed.&nbsp; d20 is a great system too without the magic mucking up the game, but the magic is what makes it great to begin with so it's a bit of a conundrum.&nbsp; I get tired of the fantasy grind pretty quickly.&nbsp; D&amp;D is a wonderful game, but suffers greatly from kill-loot-repeat fatigue.&nbsp; d20 was portable to other genres.&nbsp; There was information on it in the 3e DMG.&nbsp; But it had about 1200 pages of &quot;core&quot; game in the PHB, DMG &amp; MM before adding on any of a number of great books in different genres.&nbsp; My 2 faves are Omega World d20 and Judge Dredd d20, but the other players in my group really only tolerated these and other deviations from D&amp;D to lesser or greater extents.&nbsp; And, as mentioned above, that is the real problem with finding a One True System when most of the group just wants to grind out more &amp; more D&amp;D.&nbsp; These days, I want whatever is easiest for me to get to the table.&nbsp; So, a confluence of a compelling story, accessible rules and cool miniatures (or counters or whatever) is what I seek.&nbsp; If I have to do too much work in 1 or more of those areas, it becomes less &amp; less likely that I will actually field the game.&nbsp; FREX, ORK! the RPG is a great little game with a good rules system that is fun &amp; seems pretty portable to other genres.&nbsp; But, there aren't many foes fleshed out in the book, so it is hard to get it through to the &quot;D&amp;D only&quot; players.&nbsp; I just don't want to do the work when other options are ready to go - sometimes right out of the box.&nbsp; So, I'll probably stick to Savage Worlds or d20 to do whatever I want to do with gaming indefinitely.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="scourger, post: 6241167, member: 12328"] For me, it comes down to genre portability. [B]Savage Worlds[/B] (predictably) and [B]d20[/B] (ironically) have been the best systems for me in those respects. The best generic system I've found is Savage Worlds. I love it. But, we mainly play it without magic so the experience is skewed. d20 is a great system too without the magic mucking up the game, but the magic is what makes it great to begin with so it's a bit of a conundrum. I get tired of the fantasy grind pretty quickly. D&D is a wonderful game, but suffers greatly from kill-loot-repeat fatigue. d20 was portable to other genres. There was information on it in the 3e DMG. But it had about 1200 pages of "core" game in the PHB, DMG & MM before adding on any of a number of great books in different genres. My 2 faves are Omega World d20 and Judge Dredd d20, but the other players in my group really only tolerated these and other deviations from D&D to lesser or greater extents. And, as mentioned above, that is the real problem with finding a One True System when most of the group just wants to grind out more & more D&D. These days, I want whatever is easiest for me to get to the table. So, a confluence of a compelling story, accessible rules and cool miniatures (or counters or whatever) is what I seek. If I have to do too much work in 1 or more of those areas, it becomes less & less likely that I will actually field the game. FREX, ORK! the RPG is a great little game with a good rules system that is fun & seems pretty portable to other genres. But, there aren't many foes fleshed out in the book, so it is hard to get it through to the "D&D only" players. I just don't want to do the work when other options are ready to go - sometimes right out of the box. So, I'll probably stick to Savage Worlds or d20 to do whatever I want to do with gaming indefinitely. [/QUOTE]

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