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<blockquote data-quote="Jack7" data-source="post: 5679414" data-attributes="member: 54707"><p>A couple of years ago I started making my own beers, and spicing my wines and beers. Often following ancient spicing recipes. It's not as easy as it first seems but after a few months of experimentation I got good at it. And now others often ask me to spice their beers and wines. I hope no one takes a run at me over it, but if done right, you can make some really fine drinks that are really good for ya. Plus the chemical experimentation is a lot of fun.</p><p></p><p>So I see why they went after the recipes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I guess it depends a lot upon what you're going after and in what way. If it's just, "go find an item," then that to me is a retrieval. Not a Quest. A Quest has to meet certain minimum parameters to me for it to be considered a real Quest.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I think that real Quests are very rare in our society, for a number of societal and cultural reasons, and things that are really just retrievals and searches are these days mislabeled as Quests. When in fact they are not Quests at all.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">(Or put another way, modern man has developed a totally different definition, and a much more anemic one in my opinion, of Quest than those definitions used in earlier ages to describe a Quest.)</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">And the same is true of Game and Imaginary Quests. Modern men have a hard time even imagining what a real Quest would be like, or why it should be undertaken, or what it would really involve. Because modern men are used to doing things extremely quickly, wanting problems to be resolved almost overnight, and because they prefer to mitigate risk (nothing wrong with those things in and of themselves, they just aren't always a realistic way of approaching every problem in life) rather than embrace and conquer risk, especially if by conquering risk you have to suffer real injury and hurt. (Much easier to heal by potion or spell, or modern medical technique, than recover through hard effort, or to suffer life-long crippling.) </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I'll list below what I think are the most important elements of a real Quest. Others can discuss those elements if they wish or make their own list.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack7, post: 5679414, member: 54707"] A couple of years ago I started making my own beers, and spicing my wines and beers. Often following ancient spicing recipes. It's not as easy as it first seems but after a few months of experimentation I got good at it. And now others often ask me to spice their beers and wines. I hope no one takes a run at me over it, but if done right, you can make some really fine drinks that are really good for ya. Plus the chemical experimentation is a lot of fun. So I see why they went after the recipes. [FONT=Verdana]I guess it depends a lot upon what you're going after and in what way. If it's just, "go find an item," then that to me is a retrieval. Not a Quest. A Quest has to meet certain minimum parameters to me for it to be considered a real Quest.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]I think that real Quests are very rare in our society, for a number of societal and cultural reasons, and things that are really just retrievals and searches are these days mislabeled as Quests. When in fact they are not Quests at all.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana](Or put another way, modern man has developed a totally different definition, and a much more anemic one in my opinion, of Quest than those definitions used in earlier ages to describe a Quest.)[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]And the same is true of Game and Imaginary Quests. Modern men have a hard time even imagining what a real Quest would be like, or why it should be undertaken, or what it would really involve. Because modern men are used to doing things extremely quickly, wanting problems to be resolved almost overnight, and because they prefer to mitigate risk (nothing wrong with those things in and of themselves, they just aren't always a realistic way of approaching every problem in life) rather than embrace and conquer risk, especially if by conquering risk you have to suffer real injury and hurt. (Much easier to heal by potion or spell, or modern medical technique, than recover through hard effort, or to suffer life-long crippling.) [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]I'll list below what I think are the most important elements of a real Quest. Others can discuss those elements if they wish or make their own list.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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