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The (quintessential) paladin prestige class
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<blockquote data-quote="Al" data-source="post: 248701" data-attributes="member: 2486"><p>Improved Disarm? </p><p></p><p>Yes, I understand the whole non-lethal combat premise. But even so...consider the prerequisities: Expertise. What does Expertise require? Intelligence 13.</p><p></p><p>Now, I'm not a huge subscriber to the 'Lawful Stupid' school of paladinhood, but it seems bizarre that all paladins should have an Intelligence of at least 13 (especially seeing that the archetypal paladin uses Int as the dump stat). But more to the point, should paladinhood really restrict people based on Intelligence? I think not.</p><p></p><p>Bravery, honesty, honour and the like are the qualities of paladinhood. Genius, study and logic are not strictly. The Improved Disarm requirement phases out a lot of the most dutiful people who could qualify for paladinhood, merely because they are too stupid. This is an intellectual elitism that seems out of place for paladinhood.</p><p></p><p>Leadership is another odd choice. The questing paladin may have a squire, but is this paladin really (at high level) strictly going to have an army of retainers? I don't think that they should. Not all paladins of legend (e.g. Knights of the Round Table) were served by cohorts of followers, and the ones in DnD should not have this requirement either.</p><p></p><p>Feat selection is necessary for a prestige class, but the question is which ones? Perhaps Mounted Combat, perhaps Endurance, perhaps Weapon Focus (it is for the Templar), or Smooth Talk (FR) or even Skill Focus (Heal). Improved Disarm, which cuts out all paladins of average and lower intellect; and Leadership, which necessarily negates the 'questing' hero archetype, seem inappropriate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Al, post: 248701, member: 2486"] Improved Disarm? Yes, I understand the whole non-lethal combat premise. But even so...consider the prerequisities: Expertise. What does Expertise require? Intelligence 13. Now, I'm not a huge subscriber to the 'Lawful Stupid' school of paladinhood, but it seems bizarre that all paladins should have an Intelligence of at least 13 (especially seeing that the archetypal paladin uses Int as the dump stat). But more to the point, should paladinhood really restrict people based on Intelligence? I think not. Bravery, honesty, honour and the like are the qualities of paladinhood. Genius, study and logic are not strictly. The Improved Disarm requirement phases out a lot of the most dutiful people who could qualify for paladinhood, merely because they are too stupid. This is an intellectual elitism that seems out of place for paladinhood. Leadership is another odd choice. The questing paladin may have a squire, but is this paladin really (at high level) strictly going to have an army of retainers? I don't think that they should. Not all paladins of legend (e.g. Knights of the Round Table) were served by cohorts of followers, and the ones in DnD should not have this requirement either. Feat selection is necessary for a prestige class, but the question is which ones? Perhaps Mounted Combat, perhaps Endurance, perhaps Weapon Focus (it is for the Templar), or Smooth Talk (FR) or even Skill Focus (Heal). Improved Disarm, which cuts out all paladins of average and lower intellect; and Leadership, which necessarily negates the 'questing' hero archetype, seem inappropriate. [/QUOTE]
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