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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sonofapreacherman" data-source="post: 251756" data-attributes="member: 2315">You got it. I couldn't have said it better myself. Qualifying to become a paladin is not *meant* to be easy. In fact, I have deliberately made it difficult. Only well rounded men and woman should embrace this calling. I would say Strength, Charisma, and Wisdom are the foremost priorities here.That said, I really don't understand all the fuss you're making about Intelligence. If a fighter starts out with 12 Intelligence at 1st level (a slightly above "average" score) they will do just fine. All that fighter has to do is raise their Intelligence to 13 at 4th level and choose Expertise as their 4th level bonus feat. They can still easily qualify to become a 1st level paladin a 7th level (the earliest) by choosing Improved Disarm as their 6th level bonus feat, and Leadership as their level-dependant feat (also at 6th level). Done.As for iconic character classes, there is something about the paladin that lacks the same "everyday status" as the 10 other adventuring character classes. I mean, what other character class is restricted to (count them) 1 alignment choice. The paladin represents the highest standard of morality. A veritable paragon of virtue. That is something that should be "earned". Not idly stepped into. With the invention of prestige classes in 3rd edition Dungeons and Dragons, paladins can finally become what they were always meant to be. The platinum ring for which you have to stretch the furthest to reach.All the power to you.You've already misunderstood. High Intelligence will not get you respect, but low Intelligence you get you laughed at pretty damn quick. Getting laughed at either translates into "a lack of respect" or being made into the town mascot. You choose.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Let them. Nothing I do to the paladin will change that my friend.You understand scarce little about role-playing if that is your take on it.The hospitaler and paladin prestige classes are identical you say? I didn't set out to be deliberately offensive Al, but if I thought you were misinformed before, now I am convinced of it. A few abilities do make these prestige classes "identical". There are so many strong dissimilarities between the two that I wonder if you are either blind (I hope not for your sake) or selectively "choosing" not to see them.What's worse is that you are "counting abilities" (of prestige classes) and remaining oblivious to their conceptual themes. The first quality of a good role-player is that they start with a character "concept", at which point they look to see if any character or prestige classes happen to "fit" that concept. You can deny it Al, but I strongly suspect you bolt straight for the abilities.What I *can* say with complete certainly is that you definitely do not speak for role-players.</blockquote>

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