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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jerrid Al-Kundo" data-source="post: 252500" data-attributes="member: 3321">Except that idea completely overlooks the fact that the character already has 7 or more levels of other Class Abilities.  For instance, a Fighter-turned-Paladin is already capable of destroying these undead rather than making them flee, while a Cleric-turned-Paladin is certainly already a better Undead Turner.I see no reason to boost the effect any more than I would for a 9th Level Fighter that decides to become a Cleric at 10th.  Perhaps giving Turn at 1st Level without any reduction, but then the possibility of front loading becomes a concern.  Allowing Clerics to add their Paladin Level to turning efforts is also an idea.As it is now, I see it most useful as a defensive ability, possibly to push back lesser undead in order to clear a path to the BBEG giving them orders.</blockquote>