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<blockquote data-quote="Sonofapreacherman" data-source="post: 257350" data-attributes="member: 2315"><p>Sorry for being negligent folks. My IP address was on the blink for 2 days. Let me post a quick couple of things.</p><p></p><p>-----</p><p></p><p>apsuman.</p><p></p><p>The <em>lay on hands</em> ability does not heal 2 Hit Points per level, but rather your Charisma bonus per level. A significant difference to be sure.</p><p></p><p>-----</p><p></p><p>stranger.</p><p></p><p>You are most assuredly correct. Percival was considered a fool. I don't want to deny his existence either. Presidents like him are what caused me start designing a "righteous peasant hero" prestige class. Such a prestige class would have all the central abilities of the paladin prestige class, plus a few unique abilities and skills of their own.</p><p></p><p>-----</p><p></p><p></p><p>You state the obvious. That is exactly what I set out to do. So really, mission accomplished.</p><p></p><p>The two prestige classes are "meant" to foil each other. Thus I made it so. Not only for that reason, but also to encourage role-playing (forcing characters to "earn" this prestige class) in all the ways that I have already stated.</p><p></p><p>-----</p><p></p><p></p><p>I really don't see your point. Everybody wants ideal stats, but don't always get them, so they learn how to get by. The paladin prestige class needs three above average attributes, namely Strength, Wisdom, and Charisma. Many classes need three strong scores. By your own examples, it's not uncommon. And despite your repeated instance to the contrary, my proof has already demonstrated that potential paladins only need "slightly above average" (12) Intelligence.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Please go back and read my quote again. You actually featured it in your last reply, but with the same misunderstanding that prompted me to respond in the first place.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh my lord! Al, listen to yourself. I am not claiming that historical leaders cannot have low Intelligence. I am talking about paladins! Not dictators or presidents. My god, dictators or presidents can be the most incompetent people in the world. I am talking about paladins. Try not to derail the thread with irrelevant examples please.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>By even bringing up the hospitaller, you have already justified my claim that you do not speak for role-players. You are still counting abilities by reading a few of the same ability names and drawing false and fast conclusions. Try actually reading the introductory paragraphs to identify the difference between these two prestige classes. If you have already, read it again.</p><p></p><p>Beside that, the hospitaller is fraught with contradictions. The chart doesn't list any spells per day, but the ability description does. The spells per day ability description claims that the hospitaller class *does not* gain the turn undead ability, but the chart *does*.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sonofapreacherman, post: 257350, member: 2315"] Sorry for being negligent folks. My IP address was on the blink for 2 days. Let me post a quick couple of things. ----- apsuman. The [i]lay on hands[/i] ability does not heal 2 Hit Points per level, but rather your Charisma bonus per level. A significant difference to be sure. ----- stranger. You are most assuredly correct. Percival was considered a fool. I don't want to deny his existence either. Presidents like him are what caused me start designing a "righteous peasant hero" prestige class. Such a prestige class would have all the central abilities of the paladin prestige class, plus a few unique abilities and skills of their own. ----- You state the obvious. That is exactly what I set out to do. So really, mission accomplished. The two prestige classes are "meant" to foil each other. Thus I made it so. Not only for that reason, but also to encourage role-playing (forcing characters to "earn" this prestige class) in all the ways that I have already stated. ----- I really don't see your point. Everybody wants ideal stats, but don't always get them, so they learn how to get by. The paladin prestige class needs three above average attributes, namely Strength, Wisdom, and Charisma. Many classes need three strong scores. By your own examples, it's not uncommon. And despite your repeated instance to the contrary, my proof has already demonstrated that potential paladins only need "slightly above average" (12) Intelligence. Please go back and read my quote again. You actually featured it in your last reply, but with the same misunderstanding that prompted me to respond in the first place. Oh my lord! Al, listen to yourself. I am not claiming that historical leaders cannot have low Intelligence. I am talking about paladins! Not dictators or presidents. My god, dictators or presidents can be the most incompetent people in the world. I am talking about paladins. Try not to derail the thread with irrelevant examples please. By even bringing up the hospitaller, you have already justified my claim that you do not speak for role-players. You are still counting abilities by reading a few of the same ability names and drawing false and fast conclusions. Try actually reading the introductory paragraphs to identify the difference between these two prestige classes. If you have already, read it again. Beside that, the hospitaller is fraught with contradictions. The chart doesn't list any spells per day, but the ability description does. The spells per day ability description claims that the hospitaller class *does not* gain the turn undead ability, but the chart *does*. [/QUOTE]
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