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The (quintessential) paladin prestige class
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<blockquote data-quote="Al" data-source="post: 265531" data-attributes="member: 2486"><p>Fair enough. It was probably intended as an insult, but in the interest of fair play, you did nothing to chastise SoaPM when he denounced us as powergamers, munchkins, and stat-grinders. You cannot maintain a guise of neutrality and then attack one side yet not the other for exactly the same device.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>True, but he presumably posted them here to get feedback. Can he blame us if the feedback is negative?</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>A sound point. But the same comment applies.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Nope, but balance is the only issue that the boards can really comment on. He posted the prestige class here presumably to check balance rather than the 'role-playing' element, which is insurmountable (and hence posting here would be pointless.)</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>This adds up to five. But the objection not dealt with is why the abilities upon which the 'weight of dependance' (sic) is placed is not demanded as a prerequisite, but only which is of negligible usefulness or appropriateness is.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Well, what on the class features block is trivial in its importance, and actually worse than not attempting to surmount this class. Granted, there would be roleplaying benefits, but it seems illogical. Why would an organisation dedicate itself to 'serving' its god by actually making prospective candidates weaker? If they were truly trying to maximise their god's influence/power, they would not go for this prestige class and remain as a non-prestige organisation.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I disagree. He has listened to no criticism whatsoever. He has failed repeatedly to deal with the points about the paladin's lack of niche compared with the Hospitaller and Templar. He has responded to fair criticism with insults. He has ignored the consenus of opinion: what criticisms has he listened to?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Al, post: 265531, member: 2486"] Fair enough. It was probably intended as an insult, but in the interest of fair play, you did nothing to chastise SoaPM when he denounced us as powergamers, munchkins, and stat-grinders. You cannot maintain a guise of neutrality and then attack one side yet not the other for exactly the same device. True, but he presumably posted them here to get feedback. Can he blame us if the feedback is negative? A sound point. But the same comment applies. Nope, but balance is the only issue that the boards can really comment on. He posted the prestige class here presumably to check balance rather than the 'role-playing' element, which is insurmountable (and hence posting here would be pointless.) This adds up to five. But the objection not dealt with is why the abilities upon which the 'weight of dependance' (sic) is placed is not demanded as a prerequisite, but only which is of negligible usefulness or appropriateness is. Well, what on the class features block is trivial in its importance, and actually worse than not attempting to surmount this class. Granted, there would be roleplaying benefits, but it seems illogical. Why would an organisation dedicate itself to 'serving' its god by actually making prospective candidates weaker? If they were truly trying to maximise their god's influence/power, they would not go for this prestige class and remain as a non-prestige organisation. I disagree. He has listened to no criticism whatsoever. He has failed repeatedly to deal with the points about the paladin's lack of niche compared with the Hospitaller and Templar. He has responded to fair criticism with insults. He has ignored the consenus of opinion: what criticisms has he listened to? [/QUOTE]
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