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<blockquote data-quote="Lily Inverse" data-source="post: 265907" data-attributes="member: 4594"><p>I would also like to point out that a low Dexterity is no good for a Paladin either, because it lowers that all-important AC. While heavy armor can compensate for an average Dexterity score, it cannot compensate for a below average one. Thus, this Paladin must essentially be average in one stat and above average in five others, utterly impossible to accomplish on any point-buy system without SOMETHING giving in.</p><p></p><p>Yes, I mentioned this before, but I thought it really bore repeating.</p><p></p><p>And I'd like to hear our original poster's opinion on this, although he seems to have stopped paying any attention whatsoever. His loss, if he can't take criticism. That's not to say I don't agree with his goals, I stated that I do. But I have come to think he is clearly going about them the wrong way. As a suggestion, <em>drop the Leadership requirement!</em> In its place, I would use a mounted combat feat to emphasize the usefulness of the mount. This would truly go a long way towards justifying the superhuman requirements that you have set up in statistics. If you are adamant about keeping leadership, then you almost certainly must get rid of Expertise and Improved Disarm and replace them with something far more reasonable and useful for the paladin to use. If he wants, I can generate a "typical" Paladin and Blacklguard with the standard layout, typical skills, etc. and only focus on the different feat trees and SHOW him what would happen when these two "equal opposites" meet. I don't believe it will be pretty for our Paladin friend.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lily Inverse, post: 265907, member: 4594"] I would also like to point out that a low Dexterity is no good for a Paladin either, because it lowers that all-important AC. While heavy armor can compensate for an average Dexterity score, it cannot compensate for a below average one. Thus, this Paladin must essentially be average in one stat and above average in five others, utterly impossible to accomplish on any point-buy system without SOMETHING giving in. Yes, I mentioned this before, but I thought it really bore repeating. And I'd like to hear our original poster's opinion on this, although he seems to have stopped paying any attention whatsoever. His loss, if he can't take criticism. That's not to say I don't agree with his goals, I stated that I do. But I have come to think he is clearly going about them the wrong way. As a suggestion, [i]drop the Leadership requirement![/i] In its place, I would use a mounted combat feat to emphasize the usefulness of the mount. This would truly go a long way towards justifying the superhuman requirements that you have set up in statistics. If you are adamant about keeping leadership, then you almost certainly must get rid of Expertise and Improved Disarm and replace them with something far more reasonable and useful for the paladin to use. If he wants, I can generate a "typical" Paladin and Blacklguard with the standard layout, typical skills, etc. and only focus on the different feat trees and SHOW him what would happen when these two "equal opposites" meet. I don't believe it will be pretty for our Paladin friend. [/QUOTE]
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