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<blockquote data-quote="Jerrid Al-Kundo" data-source="post: 265971" data-attributes="member: 3321"><p>I'm not neutral, however. I once took a 6-page grilling for daring to suggest that a less combat-oriented Rogue (ala no Sneak Attack) was feasible. Having been the target of such attacks (including the "real Role-Player" snub), I figure such folks are capable of defending themselves just fine.</p><p></p><p>No, but he can blame y'all for repeating it continuously regardless of his own reasoning. Again, having read six pages about how sneak attack was a game necessity (which it isn't), I understand his position completely.</p><p></p><p>Ditto.</p><p></p><p>Which is why, after SoaPM stated his reasoning, folks should have simply walked away from the thread.</p><p></p><p>+1 Skill Point a level isn't useful? It's part of the general balancing factor for Humans.</p><p></p><p>Again, though, weakness (and strength) is relative. It's also why after SoaPM posted his reasoning that folks should have walked away; Part of the benefits aren't quantifiable, which is all the rage in 3E.</p><p></p><p>The second page of this thread contains a revision based on some criticism. What he has responded to with insults is words like weak, underpowered, and other catch phrases that, while perhaps not coming <em>from</em> a Power Gamer, are often the first complaints <em>of</em> a Power Gamer.</p><p></p><p>I feel that SoaPM stated his reasons for this class; Even pointed out that the Intelligence requirement was intentional. Once that happens, you either support, suggest or walk away. Telling someone their wrong, through whatever terms, is simply fanning flames (even if unintentional). About the only thing that's surprised me is that he didn't add Apsuman's suggested ability; I thought it was going to make an appearance.</p><p></p><p>Now, me, I wouldn't use it, but I stated back on Page 1 that I would be designing religion-specific. If for my campaign, I'd have added Single Out at 6th, and possibly a Bonus Feat or two, and boosted Lay on Hands. But as it's his, and I agree that his reasoning is fine for his game (which Elder Basilisk states as well on Page 2), I saw no reason to point such out.</p><p></p><p>Speaking of which...</p><p></p><p><strong>Hey, Apsuman:</strong></p><p></p><p>Mind if I use Single Out? If you want real name or e-mail address credit, e-mail me with the details. Otherwise, I'm just going to give credit to <em>Apsuman from the ENWorld Boards</em>. Kewl?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jerrid Al-Kundo, post: 265971, member: 3321"] I'm not neutral, however. I once took a 6-page grilling for daring to suggest that a less combat-oriented Rogue (ala no Sneak Attack) was feasible. Having been the target of such attacks (including the "real Role-Player" snub), I figure such folks are capable of defending themselves just fine. No, but he can blame y'all for repeating it continuously regardless of his own reasoning. Again, having read six pages about how sneak attack was a game necessity (which it isn't), I understand his position completely. Ditto. Which is why, after SoaPM stated his reasoning, folks should have simply walked away from the thread. +1 Skill Point a level isn't useful? It's part of the general balancing factor for Humans. Again, though, weakness (and strength) is relative. It's also why after SoaPM posted his reasoning that folks should have walked away; Part of the benefits aren't quantifiable, which is all the rage in 3E. The second page of this thread contains a revision based on some criticism. What he has responded to with insults is words like weak, underpowered, and other catch phrases that, while perhaps not coming [i]from[/i] a Power Gamer, are often the first complaints [i]of[/i] a Power Gamer. I feel that SoaPM stated his reasons for this class; Even pointed out that the Intelligence requirement was intentional. Once that happens, you either support, suggest or walk away. Telling someone their wrong, through whatever terms, is simply fanning flames (even if unintentional). About the only thing that's surprised me is that he didn't add Apsuman's suggested ability; I thought it was going to make an appearance. Now, me, I wouldn't use it, but I stated back on Page 1 that I would be designing religion-specific. If for my campaign, I'd have added Single Out at 6th, and possibly a Bonus Feat or two, and boosted Lay on Hands. But as it's his, and I agree that his reasoning is fine for his game (which Elder Basilisk states as well on Page 2), I saw no reason to point such out. Speaking of which... [b]Hey, Apsuman:[/b] Mind if I use Single Out? If you want real name or e-mail address credit, e-mail me with the details. Otherwise, I'm just going to give credit to [i]Apsuman from the ENWorld Boards[/i]. Kewl? [/QUOTE]
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