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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Al" data-source="post: 268183" data-attributes="member: 2486">Welcome back, SoaPM.  I fear that the whole thread may have got rather heated last time you were here, so let's drop the insults shall we?I do not labour under the impression that a high Int is not *desirable* for the paladin, and indeed it is preferable.  Indeed, a low Int will lose some respect.  But what of an average Int, say 10-12?  The main objection is that whilst Intelligence is demanded by the class, the self-professed central abilites are not.  I would be far happier if you actually added the requirements: Strength, Wisdom and Charisma 15+ (to give them relative importance to Intelligence) since these are the supposed prime abilites of the paladin.  At the current, an Int of 13 is the only required statistic.  Thus, an Int 13 Cha 1 Str 3 Wis 3 character could qualify; but an Int 12 Cha 18 Str 18 Wis 18 character could not.  This seems illogical- especially as the latter is clearly more suited to paladinhood.As for hospitallers and so forth, I must make a confession at this juncture.  I don't have DotF with me right now, but from what I recall they are nigh identical (indeed, I know DotF from a friend's book).  When I queried as to the differences, it was an honest question.  In the absence of such knowledge, the general perception of the Hospitaller/Templar seemed too similar to the proposed paladin.Your rationale behind explaining why you created a prestige class for a roleplaying problem does not do it justice.  Why are the prerequisites skewed towards an Int based requirement?  The 'core abilities' of paladinhood are Str/Wis/Cha.  Surely requirements based on these would be more appropriate to candidates 'considering what it means to be a paladin' (such as the Divine Feats from DotF)?As for Leadership, it is indeed powerful.  I did not object to it on power grounds, but on RP grounds.  Many of the 'paladins' of legend have been of the questing variety rather than the 'running-the-show' variety.  Very few had armies of retainers and cohorts.  Yet this prerequisites nonchalantly dismisses this archetype in favour of the latter.  I find that hard to justify- on roleplaying grounds.   If you want the paladin to be a 'leader' (small 'l') then a Charisma prerequisite would be more appropriate.</blockquote>

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