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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lily Inverse" data-source="post: 270725" data-attributes="member: 4594">In terms of abilities, Knights of Solamnia are very similar to Paladins.  Basing the new classes on the Paladin core class would only be sensible.  This does not, however, make them Paladins.  They are a very different group and have very different priorities.I'm going to choose to take that as a compliment  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /> You've just stated the definition of a PrC, something that goes beyond the "Core 12."  Core classes serve as specific skillsets and abilities, not necessarily as specific roles.  Fighters all fight, but one could be an archer, one could be an axe-wielder, and a third could even eschew strength and fight with a rapier.  By forcing Paladins in to a particular, and really rather colorful, feat tree SoaPM has essentially placed the Paladin in with the likes of the other PrCs.  This is bad because it removes the meaning of being able to choose your way as one would in the Core class.This is a flavor issue, Paladins are holy warriors dedicated to the service of their god, or in the absence of a god, the generic concepts of Good and Order.  This is ALL they are, and to actually BE a Paladin a replacement class should support this idea.  Note that there is nothing in particular about a Paladin that requires him to be a military leader, or that he necessarily be of high intelligence.  These are two issues that, in the minds of most people, simply go against the grain of what a Paladin can be.  Maybe not should, but can.  Yes.  To put it simply, while I think this is a decently thought-out class, it's just not representative of the Paladin as printed in the PHB.  If he wishes to divide the core Paladin into multiple PrCs with unique abilities (and with his "Peasant Hero" and others, this is just what he's proposing), that's his business.  Perhaps in RP terms they're even ALL known as Paladins.  But a single cookie-cutter does not a Paladin make, any more than it would make sense for the Fighter, Druid, or Rogue classes to universally recieve the same benefits and pursue goals in similiar fashions.</blockquote>

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