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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 6303703" data-attributes="member: 18">I don't think one can put that aside, because that is why Drow are a PC race at all, I'd suggest, and lead directly Drizzt etc.! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> It shows very clearly that there was demand for them as PCs, even then.Remember, too, if it were up to Gary, we would not have Elves, Dwarves and Halflings at all - he was chivvied into putting them in, and didn't want to. People who actually played with him (Old Geezer on RPG.net, for example) seem to have suggested that he actually preferred stuff like playable Balrogs and so on to those (which Gary had is his campaign).Re: Tieflings, I'd like to see both 2E and 4E Tieflings, perhaps with different names, because both have a lot of value. 4E should probably be the default, even though they are more boring, because they're more accessible/immediate (I prefer 2E personally).</blockquote>