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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5402440" data-attributes="member: 4937">I don't get the 'It's not a dragon' reference.I don't get how 'C' is more railroady than 'B'.&nbsp; Personally, I'd reverse the two.&nbsp; Actually, I'd probably make 'B' be, &quot;Your character name must be chosen from a list of 500 setting appropriate names provided by the DM.&quot;, and make 'C' the clear sign you are on a railroad.Personally, I think 'A' proves nothing.&nbsp; You still might be on a railroad.&nbsp; In fact, I seem to recall a long EnWorld thread where we were arguing over whether 'captured/kidnapped/etc.' in your sleep and you don't learn about it as a player until after the plot succeeds constituted railroading, and I sided with those that said it did.&nbsp; So, I'd say for 'A' that you probably are on a railroad.In this case, I don't see how personified characters are more railroad and less for example 'sandbox'.&nbsp;&nbsp; Isn't one of the signs of a sandbox a huge number of named PC's, so that if you go to get your horse shod the DM has a seven sentence description of the farrier and stats already worked up (or a random table for generating the event if he doesn't).Huh?&nbsp; I don't get this one at all.&nbsp;&nbsp; 'A' and 'B' seem like really weak justification for the slightly funny 'C', but overall they just don't fit.Again, isn't one of the characteristics of a sterotypical sandbox that it has such a deeply worked out history and cosmology that the DM actually can read his notes to you for hours?&nbsp; I don't think any of the above actually tells us whether we are on a railroad.&nbsp; I appreciate the zing!, but again, don't see this as actually signifying railroad.&nbsp; Railroads can be extremely imaginative, and actually - sadly - often are.&nbsp; The problem with railroads is that they often are very good DM prep, and very bad DM execution.&nbsp; Not sure I get 'A' and 'B', again.'C' is actually funny.&nbsp; Not sure I get 'A' and 'B', again.Ok, that one works.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5402440, member: 4937"] I don't get the 'It's not a dragon' reference. I don't get how 'C' is more railroady than 'B'. Personally, I'd reverse the two. Actually, I'd probably make 'B' be, "Your character name must be chosen from a list of 500 setting appropriate names provided by the DM.", and make 'C' the clear sign you are on a railroad. Personally, I think 'A' proves nothing. You still might be on a railroad. In fact, I seem to recall a long EnWorld thread where we were arguing over whether 'captured/kidnapped/etc.' in your sleep and you don't learn about it as a player until after the plot succeeds constituted railroading, and I sided with those that said it did. So, I'd say for 'A' that you probably are on a railroad. In this case, I don't see how personified characters are more railroad and less for example 'sandbox'. Isn't one of the signs of a sandbox a huge number of named PC's, so that if you go to get your horse shod the DM has a seven sentence description of the farrier and stats already worked up (or a random table for generating the event if he doesn't). Huh? I don't get this one at all. 'A' and 'B' seem like really weak justification for the slightly funny 'C', but overall they just don't fit. Again, isn't one of the characteristics of a sterotypical sandbox that it has such a deeply worked out history and cosmology that the DM actually can read his notes to you for hours? I don't think any of the above actually tells us whether we are on a railroad. I appreciate the zing!, but again, don't see this as actually signifying railroad. Railroads can be extremely imaginative, and actually - sadly - often are. The problem with railroads is that they often are very good DM prep, and very bad DM execution. Not sure I get 'A' and 'B', again. 'C' is actually funny. Not sure I get 'A' and 'B', again. Ok, that one works. [/QUOTE]

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