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<blockquote data-quote="Justice and Rule" data-source="post: 8507489" data-attributes="member: 6778210"><p>Yeah, but every time we get these debates, it's from one particular side that always goes to "Ah, but the slippery slope!" and "But we'll have to change everything! Where does it end?!" At the end of the day, the side that doesn't want change seems to take criticism and think that suddenly we have to run everything through it, which is just such a bad-faith argument given what is being asked.</p><p></p><p>OP asked for discussion on something they thought might be problematic. They asked for honest discussion and debate. This didn't need to be confrontational, but there are a bunch of people who simply <em>don't want to have a discussion on the matter</em>. And that's fine, but if that's the case then you shouldn't be in this thread. So many of the arguments here feel less like they are trying to discuss the topic and more like they are trying to derail it with exaggeration.</p><p></p><p>I will give you credit: you have in other threads asked for what people think we should do, people have responded and you've been open to what they've said. I <em>do</em> think that your worry that D&D is going to become dry is kind of unfounded, or at least misplaced: to me, D&D is already <em>dry as hell</em>, largely because they rely so deeply on old school nostalgia for their inspiration that this stuff feels like retreads.</p><p></p><p>But in the end, the problem with these threads is that one side is interested in discussing it, and the other side simply <em>doesn't want to</em>.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because it's another easy way of trying to write off a discussion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Justice and Rule, post: 8507489, member: 6778210"] Yeah, but every time we get these debates, it's from one particular side that always goes to "Ah, but the slippery slope!" and "But we'll have to change everything! Where does it end?!" At the end of the day, the side that doesn't want change seems to take criticism and think that suddenly we have to run everything through it, which is just such a bad-faith argument given what is being asked. OP asked for discussion on something they thought might be problematic. They asked for honest discussion and debate. This didn't need to be confrontational, but there are a bunch of people who simply [I]don't want to have a discussion on the matter[/I]. And that's fine, but if that's the case then you shouldn't be in this thread. So many of the arguments here feel less like they are trying to discuss the topic and more like they are trying to derail it with exaggeration. I will give you credit: you have in other threads asked for what people think we should do, people have responded and you've been open to what they've said. I [I]do[/I] think that your worry that D&D is going to become dry is kind of unfounded, or at least misplaced: to me, D&D is already [I]dry as hell[/I], largely because they rely so deeply on old school nostalgia for their inspiration that this stuff feels like retreads. But in the end, the problem with these threads is that one side is interested in discussing it, and the other side simply [I]doesn't want to[/I]. Because it's another easy way of trying to write off a discussion. [/QUOTE]
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