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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 8507625" data-attributes="member: 85555">I think there is close proximity to some of the positions becoming the norm in these conversations and people who wanted, or want, to ban violence from video games. It seems very much rooted in the same understanding and belief about what media does and what media ought to be. I think it looks at media less as art and more as an instructional tool, or more as a shaper of culture. I am not concern trolling. I am expressing an opinion about trends in the hobby which are pretty obvious to most people I think. Some think they are good trends. And fair enough. But I think the trends are well intentioned, but ultimately more harmful than good (for the reasons I have given). I specified what I meant by propaganda. And I alluded to the types of products I meant, but I am not going to call out a specific product or game, because I don't think that would be fair to designers who aren't even engaged in this thread. My aim isn't to put up a game as an example so that it might be more heavily critiques or attacked (even though I dislike some trends in RPGs, I don't want to draw that kind of attention to anyone). My point is to disagree with the trend, which I think is visible and real. But if you disagree fine. Also, my point about propaganda was that this can lead to art becoming proganda or more like it, when you make an ideological or moral point, the main focus of the conversation. If that is what critics, reviews and people on social media are focusing on, then that is what is going to be at the center of an RPGs selling point. And I think while it doesn't necessarily mean it will all be pure propaganda, I do think it gets into the very heavy handed didactic type of material you saw a lot of in the 80s and in the victorian era. I think it is propaganda for a range of things, but fundamentally for a view of the world that prioritizes a very specific view about race, identity, power and art (one I think is well-intentioned but reductionist and misguided).</blockquote>

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