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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 8509009" data-attributes="member: 85555"><p>The intent may not be to insult, he is framing it as a compliment, but he is intentional saying something&nbsp; that is racist, and reveals racist thinking. It is different from the articulate example because in the latter, it could reveal thinking that black people are less articulate, but it also could reveal the person just thinks the individual is genuinely very articulate. But in the first example, there is no getting around the racial component because it is there in the phrasing itself. What you are pointing to is someone who might be tacitly suggesting the though &quot;(for a black person)&quot;, but where that tacit expression is present seems like it would matter in terms of assessing whether the person holds racist beliefs. And sometimes people just want to describe a person as articulate because they express themselves better than others. One issue I have with the taboo emerging around that word, is if we go that direction, then you end up in a situation where black students never get called articulate (at least by teachers who aren't also black), and I think that could be just as damaging. Just think back to your own education. If you were exceptionally articulate (and I am sure many here were as D&amp;D attracts articulate people), it benefited you to be told that you were so. Again though, like I said, we are getting way into the weeds on this one and I don't think we can go much further given the mod notice on this thread. So kindly let's drop this tangent and move to something else.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 8509009, member: 85555"] The intent may not be to insult, he is framing it as a compliment, but he is intentional saying something that is racist, and reveals racist thinking. It is different from the articulate example because in the latter, it could reveal thinking that black people are less articulate, but it also could reveal the person just thinks the individual is genuinely very articulate. But in the first example, there is no getting around the racial component because it is there in the phrasing itself. What you are pointing to is someone who might be tacitly suggesting the though "(for a black person)", but where that tacit expression is present seems like it would matter in terms of assessing whether the person holds racist beliefs. And sometimes people just want to describe a person as articulate because they express themselves better than others. One issue I have with the taboo emerging around that word, is if we go that direction, then you end up in a situation where black students never get called articulate (at least by teachers who aren't also black), and I think that could be just as damaging. Just think back to your own education. If you were exceptionally articulate (and I am sure many here were as D&D attracts articulate people), it benefited you to be told that you were so. Again though, like I said, we are getting way into the weeds on this one and I don't think we can go much further given the mod notice on this thread. So kindly let's drop this tangent and move to something else. [/QUOTE]

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