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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steverooo" data-source="post: 822254" data-attributes="member: 9410">It amazes me when I see people post things like that.  The Ranger cannot be duplicated through multiclassing.  Not under 3e, anyway.  Now if 3.5e gets rewritten such that Ranger and Paladin are again Fighter sub-classes, that would be fine, but it won't happen.1e Rangers and Paladins were "Fighters" in name only.  It took more experience to advance as either than a Fighter, and thus the Fighter got multiple attacks before either.  With 3e, it takes the same XP to go from level X to Y, regardless of class.  Thus, XP required to level was removed as a balancing mechanic.While exceptional STR and CON was given to all PCs (in 1e, only Fighter-types could have better than +1/+1 STR or +2 CON bonuses), and the different Non-Proficiency penalties were dropped (in 1e Fighters were -2, while Magic Users were -5, while in 3e everyone is -4), the Fighter-types got little, in their latest incarnation.  The Paladin and Ranger, in particular, got cut.  The Ranger's abilities were cut the most, as many of them became unbonused skills for which they had to pay... and without enough skill points to do it.From what we know, 3.5e will be an improvement.  Rangers will get six skill points/level.  They will get the same feats that everyone gets.  But they will get very few Class-defining abilities.  There will still be little, besides the skill list, which makes them a Ranger.  Unlike the Rogue and Bard, they have no Restricted abilities, save Animal Empathy, shared with Druids.  And then there are the Virtual Feats, which almost no one likes, restricting him to one of two choices, instead of allowing choice.None of this will make most of the respondents to this poll happy.  It will satisfy almost no one.  I would think that pleasing everyone would be a better solution.  A Prestige Class will not do that.  Many of us will not like being told we have to go through X levels of Y Class to become what we wanted to be, and will go looking for another game to play.</blockquote>

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