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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 5891989" data-attributes="member: 63508">[MENTION=6687937]paladinm[/MENTION] & @fuirdordm That is my vision of the ranger. The fighter is the weapons guy. The rogue is the skills guy. The wizard is the arcane magic guy. And the ranger is the Environment guy.[MENTION=93444]shidaku[/MENTION]. Bah. Anyone can be an archer. And what about desert rangers? They shooting arrows 60' forward with sand in their eyes?[MENTION=16760]The Shadow[/MENTION] The ranger is too iconic at this point to not be a class. The problem is every edition used a different ranger that the iconic class has no identity. So one must be creates from the many ideas that it had over the years. I propose the ranger be the "environment and monster knowledge" class. The class that can go out and survive in the harsh wilderness with little worry and deal with the dangerous creatures the wild tosses at him or her.[MENTION=78503]hemera[/MENTION]. I like the scout too but it seems that backgrounds and themes will kill the scout and hand the pieces to whoever wants it. There might be fighter scouts, wizard scouts. One designer even mentioned a cleric of Apollo being a scout.</blockquote>