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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FinalSonicX" data-source="post: 5892440" data-attributes="member: 63787">I think the Ranger using a ranged weapon is really logical - first off it's almost in the ranger's name <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Rangers tend to live out in the wilderness and do a lot of stuff out there, so being skilled with a ranged weapon is pretty important for the purposes of hunting and picking off wandering foes without needing an overt direct confrontation. Whether that is a bow or a crossbow or a tomahawk or a rifle (or whatever), I think that the basic idea is tied to the class' core concept. The rangers of Ithilien and Aragorn had bows because they're very practical weapons out in the wilds and rangers are very practical people. Giving the rangers some ranged feats so that it was always a decent option for them would be nice.As for dual-wielding, I agree with you and think that dual-wielding is way too specific of a combat style to basically be designated as the ranger's melee option. Dual-wielding should be an option available to pretty much anyone. When I think "ranger", the only thing that would make me think "dual wielding" is Drizz't and the fact that now there's precedent from prior editions. The real problem with pushing dual-wielding on rangers is that it then makes it generally less desirable to use one-handed or two-handed weapons and then traditional characters who we might associate with rangers feel somewhat out of place (or the class ends up feeling like the wrong fit for the character).I agree with you on several of your other points, though. A ranger's wilderness skills are assets in and of themselves, and I don't think that as a result they need to have fighting skills quite on par with a specialized fighter. They really just need to be able to contribute and hold their own in a fight, at the very least in melee (they need good HP and BAB equivalent).</blockquote>

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