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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ccooke" data-source="post: 6299960" data-attributes="member: 6695890">I think there might be a simpler alternative to turn undead, at least - and the rule probably works for any powerful feature: Let the players do it, and let RL deal with the consequences.A big difference between 5e and 3e is that big, powerful features like Turn Undead are far more limited now. Clerics of levels 6 to 18 get 2 uses of Channel Divinity per rest. That means they *could* use it once per fight, to great effect. But this is Ravenloft; channelling divine energy into it isn't going to come without a price, right?So, for every use of Turn Undead, give every undead creature in the domain a cumulative +1 bonus to the Will save for resisting it. If you're feeling nice, reduce that bonus by -1 for every day or so that it's *not* used, at all. The party will be nicely confident initially, but over time they'll realise that it's getting weaker and weaker. Have the GM narrate a sickly glow or other effect that's shielding the creatures effected, becoming darker with each use. Quickly it becomes a resource problem - they can use it once per day without making the situation worse, but maybe *this* is the fight where they need to use it a second time... Double the bonus (but not the speed of decay) for important NPCs like Strahd. Hell, imagine it - you make Strahd run away. That should be a rare event, given the Will save he should have. But imagine his reaction the next time he sees the party after it? The PCs *should* dread it.I think the proper mindset for a PC in Ravenloft should, eventually, be a terrible fear that no matter what you do,  it's going to make things worse. Scrying? Let the players scry. Make the scrying sensor always visible, and as soon as they do it have things start scrying back at them. Make Ravenloft adapt to naturally (and horribly) discourage the use of powerful tools, without actually making them unusable <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile    :-)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /></blockquote>

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