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<blockquote data-quote="ProfessorCirno" data-source="post: 5431640" data-attributes="member: 65637">Except that isn't how surges work, and claiming it does make it painfully obvious that you are fairly ignorant of the mechanic.Again, that's not how surges work.There is no exhaustion of healing options in earlier editions though.&nbsp; You can always heal HP damage.Except previous editions were no better because, once again, there was never a point in which HP damage could not be regained.&nbsp; In 4e, your body reaches a point where it's had too much and you need to rest it out.&nbsp; In previous editions, that never comes.Flat out, I've never seen or heard of anyone using &quot;natural healing rates&quot; in any edition of D&amp;D.&nbsp; As Hussar said, there's always someone jumping on the &quot;Cleric Grenade.&quot;&nbsp; 4e actually has a point in which people NEED to rest, that their boody has taken too much.&nbsp; 4e actually enforces the need to sit down and let your body rest up a bit.&nbsp; Previous editions do not.And again, I ask - have you played 4e?&nbsp; Do you really know how surges work?&nbsp; Because by your commentary and the commentary of others here, it would appear you do not.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ProfessorCirno, post: 5431640, member: 65637"] Except that isn't how surges work, and claiming it does make it painfully obvious that you are fairly ignorant of the mechanic. Again, that's not how surges work. There is no exhaustion of healing options in earlier editions though. You can [B]always[/B] heal HP damage. Except previous editions were no better because, once again, there was never a point in which HP damage could not be regained. In 4e, your body reaches a point where it's had too much and you need to rest it out. In previous editions, that never comes. Flat out, I've never seen or heard of anyone using "natural healing rates" in any edition of D&D. As Hussar said, there's always someone jumping on the "Cleric Grenade." 4e actually has a point in which people NEED to rest, that their boody has taken too much. 4e actually [I]enforces[/I] the need to sit down and let your body rest up a bit. Previous editions do not. And again, I ask - have you played 4e? Do you really know how surges work? Because by your commentary and the commentary of others here, it would appear you do not. [/QUOTE]

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