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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 1780334" data-attributes="member: 151">I think we've already established my lack of geographic knowledge, johnsemlak. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />  Thanks for the clarification, though.Henry, I think the issue of depth is one of difficulty.  Apparently, the 1820 descent is the new world record.  You can <a href="http://speleolog.ru/news/9/#" target="_blank">see the pictures of the descent</a> and <a href="http://speleolog.ru/news/8/" target="_blank">here</a>  right on the website of one of the team.You can read the English-language blog entries of their descent <a href="http://speleolog.ru/news/10krubera/" target="_blank">right here</a>.  Even the distance is a little over a mile in depth, the descent takes a LONG time.  On the first day, they descended to 1200m to make a base-camp and then hoped to make second camp at 1400m!  Apparently it becomes much more treacherous, especially with the rains and thunderstorms that hit, the intense cold and hanging from hammocks overnight in a giant vertical cave.  They made is as far as the 1820 area, but it sounds like the rain really prevented them from going deeper.</blockquote>