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Message: <blockquote data-quote="darklight" data-source="post: 279866" data-attributes="member: 2450">Samothdm said: <Begin Rant>I'm SO there with you! In my group everyone (except me) are very casual gamers. One guy has all the 2e Greyhawk stuff, but for 3e he only has the PHB, and he participates very rarely. He has wife and two kids, which understandably takes precedence.The other 4 guys own NO rpg related material whatsoever! (excluding dice) I remember when I mentioned that WotC would be raising the price on the core books, and that they had to hurry to get the PHB at the low price, one player said directly, that he would  never spend any money on any rpg stuff<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> This is for a couple of the players in part due to poor English skills. And no, there isn't a Danish translation <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes    :rolleyes:"  data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> I don't think a group can get any more casual than ours. I would love to play every week, but the others couldn't (wouldn't) possible find time for any more than once every three weeks max. On top of that, saturdays and sundays are more or less banned, since they might want to go out the night before and get drunk, and so wouldn't wanna play the next day<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> This means that we have to play from approx. 6pm to, maybe, 11pm on a weekday, and since we usually eat together first, and about one third of the time is spent on non-rpg-related chit-chat, there is very little actual gaming going on. All in all, this really messes with any kind of campaign continuity<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> I really have to find someone else to play with<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek!    :o"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /></End of Rant>BTW, our group consist of 5 24-27 yo, two unemployed, two machinists(?), one studying computernetworking, and one (me)studying to be a caretaker(?) (anything from kids to mentally challenged etc.) None of the players know anything about d20, third party publishers, ENWorld and the like.darklight</blockquote>

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