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<blockquote data-quote="rowport" data-source="post: 998755" data-attributes="member: 9729"><p>Wow, I am getting really sick of reading all this negative hype about a product not even available in the mass market yet.</p><p></p><p>First off, what "community" are you talking about? Is it gamers- who are largely the most internally divisive group of folks I have ever encountered, even viewed by myself as an active gamer? (Shall I track down the hundreds of posts debating the merits of d20 versus HERO, for example?) Is it D&D gamers- who, again, spend an inordinate amount of energy debating various editions, and yet seem to continue to have groups playing all versions? Is it the mass public, who do not know or care about RPG games, much less revisions, AFAIK?</p><p></p><p>No, I suspect you are talking about the on-line gamers who debate via posts with each other. Now, while I will concede that as a "community" of a sort, it is hardly the happy family you make it out to be. Guess what: sales figures of D&D books versus post lists will quickly demonstrate that the message board sub-set of gamers is NOT REPRESENTATIVE of most players. Several other posters (and yourself, to some exent) recognize this in your references to only GMs frequenting ENWorld.</p><p></p><p>So, here is my response to your post (and seeming quandry): the only "community" that matters to your home game is the one sitting around your game table tossing dice. If that group likes 3.5, great! If it wants to house rule some of it (which is actually what Monte Cook recommends, if you read his entire review), great! If you want to stick with 3.0, or 2.0, or 1.0, or Fantasy HERO, great! See what I mean?</p><p></p><p>It is wonderful that we all have a chance to share opinions and ideas here. I am not dismissing the on-line "community". But, suggesting an inherent conflict because off-line we play different versions of the same game is just plain silly- that happens now, and even with different games. And, remember, most of the world does not play ANY RPGs. So, the context is important here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rowport, post: 998755, member: 9729"] Wow, I am getting really sick of reading all this negative hype about a product not even available in the mass market yet. First off, what "community" are you talking about? Is it gamers- who are largely the most internally divisive group of folks I have ever encountered, even viewed by myself as an active gamer? (Shall I track down the hundreds of posts debating the merits of d20 versus HERO, for example?) Is it D&D gamers- who, again, spend an inordinate amount of energy debating various editions, and yet seem to continue to have groups playing all versions? Is it the mass public, who do not know or care about RPG games, much less revisions, AFAIK? No, I suspect you are talking about the on-line gamers who debate via posts with each other. Now, while I will concede that as a "community" of a sort, it is hardly the happy family you make it out to be. Guess what: sales figures of D&D books versus post lists will quickly demonstrate that the message board sub-set of gamers is NOT REPRESENTATIVE of most players. Several other posters (and yourself, to some exent) recognize this in your references to only GMs frequenting ENWorld. So, here is my response to your post (and seeming quandry): the only "community" that matters to your home game is the one sitting around your game table tossing dice. If that group likes 3.5, great! If it wants to house rule some of it (which is actually what Monte Cook recommends, if you read his entire review), great! If you want to stick with 3.0, or 2.0, or 1.0, or Fantasy HERO, great! See what I mean? It is wonderful that we all have a chance to share opinions and ideas here. I am not dismissing the on-line "community". But, suggesting an inherent conflict because off-line we play different versions of the same game is just plain silly- that happens now, and even with different games. And, remember, most of the world does not play ANY RPGs. So, the context is important here. [/QUOTE]
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