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<blockquote data-quote="Stormonu" data-source="post: 6039713" data-attributes="member: 52734">That may be the fault of the limited spell list in the packet, but there are plenty of awesome 1st level cleric spells in 1E-3E.&nbsp; Bless used to affect the entire party for a combat with some nice bonuses, Command effectively nullified a target for at least a round and Sanctuary could be a soft form of Stealth in the right hands, and so forth. (And I think its worth noting that in BECMI D&amp;D, 1st level clerics had NO spells at all).Perhaps being out &quot;all day&quot; after dropping to 0 hp might be too much - it could be dropped to, say, 15 minutes&nbsp; and/or adding the fatigued condition.&nbsp; If fights go fairly quick, being out of action for a few minutes (say no more than 3-5 minutes) shouldn't be too bad a drawback.&nbsp; It's something I missed in both 3E and 4E.&nbsp; It's worth being a &quot;gritty&quot; optional rule at least.&lt;Edit&gt; Also, back in my 1E/2E days, if someone did get KO'ed, the group usually retreated &amp; camped, so the KOed player wasn't sitting for hours twiddling their thumbs.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stormonu, post: 6039713, member: 52734"] That may be the fault of the limited spell list in the packet, but there are plenty of awesome 1st level cleric spells in 1E-3E. Bless used to affect the entire party for a combat with some nice bonuses, Command effectively nullified a target for at least a round and Sanctuary could be a soft form of Stealth in the right hands, and so forth. (And I think its worth noting that in BECMI D&D, 1st level clerics had NO spells at all). Perhaps being out "all day" after dropping to 0 hp might be too much - it could be dropped to, say, 15 minutes and/or adding the fatigued condition. If fights go fairly quick, being out of action for a few minutes (say no more than 3-5 minutes) shouldn't be too bad a drawback. It's something I missed in both 3E and 4E. It's worth being a "gritty" optional rule at least. <Edit> Also, back in my 1E/2E days, if someone did get KO'ed, the group usually retreated & camped, so the KOed player wasn't sitting for hours twiddling their thumbs. [/QUOTE]

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