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<blockquote data-quote="FitzTheRuke" data-source="post: 7843654" data-attributes="member: 59816"><p>Speaking as a DM, a FLGS owner & retailer, and someone who has all the books AND has run them, AND has sold (as a retailer) every edition of D&D since 2nd... everyone on this thread is 'right' from a certain perspective.</p><p></p><p>Rise of Tiamat sells extremely well for how long it's been out. It still sells well. Some of the sales are down to new players, some to people who've run other adventures and choose it as their next one. Some people are happy with it being 'railroady' because their players lack direction - railroads work really well for groups like this. Some DMs have no problem balancing encounters on the fly, so the imbalance was never a problem (for them), for others, it was a valid concern. A lot of people had problems with it.</p><p></p><p>Railroad and imbalance are the main complaints about the adventure in the mixed (and they ARE mixed - which means some of them are bad, so if you take only the bad ones, you'll think of it as 'poorly' reviewed. It's probably not <em>actually</em> 'poorly' reviewed - it's 'mixed' so I guess if you're a glass-half-empty kind of person, that's kind of the same thing?) The new version improves on those problems, but doesn't 'fix' them if you want it to be a perfectly-balanced sandbox. It's not gonna be that. I'm not sure it would be as 'good' if it was. It would certainly be a different adventure.</p><p></p><p>Overall, I would say it's a good adventure that had some issues, they've polished it up a bit. Put it in one book (I think we can all agree, if we can agree on anything, that one book is nice for it.) It's still not perfect, but it's better than an awful lot of published adventures. </p><p></p><p>It's absolutely worth it for someone who didn't buy the two books, and if you <em>did</em> buy the two books, it's probably only worth it if you a) have the money to burn; b) are a completionist, or c) really, really like that awesome cover. Otherwise, save it for the next book. There will be one soon enough, and it'll probably be good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FitzTheRuke, post: 7843654, member: 59816"] Speaking as a DM, a FLGS owner & retailer, and someone who has all the books AND has run them, AND has sold (as a retailer) every edition of D&D since 2nd... everyone on this thread is 'right' from a certain perspective. Rise of Tiamat sells extremely well for how long it's been out. It still sells well. Some of the sales are down to new players, some to people who've run other adventures and choose it as their next one. Some people are happy with it being 'railroady' because their players lack direction - railroads work really well for groups like this. Some DMs have no problem balancing encounters on the fly, so the imbalance was never a problem (for them), for others, it was a valid concern. A lot of people had problems with it. Railroad and imbalance are the main complaints about the adventure in the mixed (and they ARE mixed - which means some of them are bad, so if you take only the bad ones, you'll think of it as 'poorly' reviewed. It's probably not [I]actually[/I] 'poorly' reviewed - it's 'mixed' so I guess if you're a glass-half-empty kind of person, that's kind of the same thing?) The new version improves on those problems, but doesn't 'fix' them if you want it to be a perfectly-balanced sandbox. It's not gonna be that. I'm not sure it would be as 'good' if it was. It would certainly be a different adventure. Overall, I would say it's a good adventure that had some issues, they've polished it up a bit. Put it in one book (I think we can all agree, if we can agree on anything, that one book is nice for it.) It's still not perfect, but it's better than an awful lot of published adventures. It's absolutely worth it for someone who didn't buy the two books, and if you [I]did[/I] buy the two books, it's probably only worth it if you a) have the money to burn; b) are a completionist, or c) really, really like that awesome cover. Otherwise, save it for the next book. There will be one soon enough, and it'll probably be good. [/QUOTE]
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