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<blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 2640500" data-attributes="member: 5038">I am thankful that WOTC gave all those &quot;frustrated designers the keys to the kingdom&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp; Outside of settings and adventures (both of which I never buy), WOTC has released very little outside of the core DND books that I found to be worth purchasing.&nbsp; Dragonomicon and Stormwrack were very good.&nbsp; Book of Vile Darkness and Complete Warrior both had enough decent material.&nbsp; I even liked Unearthed Arcana.&nbsp; However, outside of these products, I cannot think of anything else WOTC has released that I felt had enough content, let alone liked at all , to make the product worth buying. In contrast, AEG, Fantasy Flight, Green Ronin, Mongoose, and even Malhavoc have each individually released more DND related products that I have found worth purchasing (even if it is just to steal ideas).&nbsp; Furthermore, when WOTC and the above companies cover similiar items or concepts, I&nbsp; generally find&nbsp; that I prefer the non-WOTC&nbsp; version.&nbsp;&nbsp; Add in various products from smaller companies and WOTC is practically irrelevant to my fantasy rpg buying habit- even if I haven't yet purchased everything that I would have liked.And, while I am not, in general, a non fantasy d20 fan,&nbsp; I love Mutants and Masterminds (thank you Chris Pramas and Steve Kenson).&nbsp; Furthermore, despite my general dislike for non-fantasy d20 games, I do find several third party d20/OGL&nbsp; releases to be very good as resource for mechanics and ideas.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greg K, post: 2640500, member: 5038"] I am thankful that WOTC gave all those "frustrated designers the keys to the kingdom". Outside of settings and adventures (both of which I never buy), WOTC has released very little outside of the core DND books that I found to be worth purchasing. Dragonomicon and Stormwrack were very good. Book of Vile Darkness and Complete Warrior both had enough decent material. I even liked Unearthed Arcana. However, outside of these products, I cannot think of anything else WOTC has released that I felt had enough content, let alone liked at all , to make the product worth buying. In contrast, AEG, Fantasy Flight, Green Ronin, Mongoose, and even Malhavoc have each individually released more DND related products that I have found worth purchasing (even if it is just to steal ideas). Furthermore, when WOTC and the above companies cover similiar items or concepts, I generally find that I prefer the non-WOTC version. Add in various products from smaller companies and WOTC is practically irrelevant to my fantasy rpg buying habit- even if I haven't yet purchased everything that I would have liked. And, while I am not, in general, a non fantasy d20 fan, I love Mutants and Masterminds (thank you Chris Pramas and Steve Kenson). Furthermore, despite my general dislike for non-fantasy d20 games, I do find several third party d20/OGL releases to be very good as resource for mechanics and ideas. [/QUOTE]

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