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Message: <blockquote data-quote="(contact)" data-source="post: 533922" data-attributes="member: 41">Incognito-- you wanted Taran to get slapped down for being so mouthy and you got it! Solom Ned'Razak punked us out so bad that we just ran for the hills.  Q1. How many commune spells are being busted out?Two, IIRC, plus a pair of divinations.Q2. Are there updated PC stat blocks for Taran, Thel, and Kyreel somewhere?Yes and no-- I have stat blocks from after about chapter 55 or so.  I'll go ahead and put them up.  At the time of Chapter 50 Kyreel is 13th level, Taran is 14th and Thelbar is 15h.  Everyone has raised a level or two since this chapter.Finally! We see the PCs (specifically Taran), acting more human, - getting his freak on with the Drow body guard, and later, threatening his retainers (how's thier morale now?)Thier morale had better be on speaking terms with their survival instinct if they want to keep on staying drunk on Taran's tab.  Juron sold Taran up the river with Jhaneria, trying to put the make on her!  Taran has always had a weakness for the female persuasion. Thelbar's history with his children and their mother (more to be revealed later, I'm sure) has turned him gun-shy when it comes to love-- he's become the cold fish, while Taran chases skirts wherever he goes.But Taran's philandering hasn't been too much trouble for him up until now.   Of course, it occurs to me as a player that Nathe might be hustling Taran, or setting in motion some drow plot within a plot either against her matron mother, or against the adventurers, or both.  Taran isn't quite smart enough at this stage to figure that out, but certainly Thelbar has considered the possibility that his brother is being played for a fool.Thelbar would reason that if your enemies believe that you don't know what they're up to, they're more likely to reveal themselves in the long run.I think Taran's #1 character defect isn't his lack of relationship saavy, it is his "adventurer's entitlement".  He views everyone who isn't a hard-core adventurer as somehow beneath him, and his relationships (sexual, platonic or political) reflect this fact. He treats Juron and Glim essentially the same high-handed way that he treats the High Councillor of Mistledale, the stable boy, or Ahl-Ithevia the prophet-- a vaugely condescending protectiveness that is dependant on their continued obedience.If he had more wisdom, he'd be something like Don Corleone in the Godfather movies-- the benificent tyrant.  You have to show Don Corleone respect at all times (or loose your life), but if you do, he'll take care of you.With this attitude, Taran is really incapable of equal relationships outside of his adventuring companions.  Jhaneria gets on him about this a little later on, and Taran comes out of his rationalization bag with his deeply held (but damn flimsy) conviction that he is special because he kills the things that go bump in the night.Q3. I can't remember, when did Taran get involved with Jhanira?Jhanira was introduced in Chapter 26 when the PCs first arrive in Mistledale, and the logs specifically mention that Taran was "staying drunk and cavorting with Jhanira Barasstan, the local priestess of Chauntea" in Chapter 47.In game, they became involved shortly after Taran's appointment to Lord High Protector, but it was really a background thing.  (Until, of course, Juron and Glim started making trouble for him by ratting him out).Q4. YOu allow two item creators to 1/2 the time of item creation?We have the PCs spend time relative to the actual cost, not the market price of the magic item.  Thelbar has the Magical Artisan (Wondrous Item) feat, which reduced the overall out-of-pocket cost of the portable hole to around 5,000 gp.Q5. How is charm handled in your game? BY the std rules threatining action (gee, like killing one's bodyguards!) imposes a -5 penalty to the save DC. Charm works that way in our game as well.  Aside from our unique interpretations or misreading of things, we don't use any significant house-rules--  in this case, the drow just missed his save.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  Of course, that's still pretty easy to do . . . Thel's 1st-level Enchantment spells are DC 22, and this might have even been a charm monster spell . . .Q6. Does Thel realize that Drow have SR? He must right?Of course-- many of his spells are failing against these drow (and some even worse foes we encounter later), but he has been fairly successful in these early lower-level encounters.</blockquote>

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